My Whole Personality

Animorphs

Joanna Clark Episode 19

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 32:35

Joanna tells Evan and Clay how Animorphs was born out of a dumpster in Florida, and how glue is made from ill-tempered horses.

Follow the show on Instagram @mywholepersonalitypod
Produced and edited by Joanna Clark
Theme music by Rebecca Jaffe
Podcast art by Michelle Hong (michelleyhong.com)

SPEAKER_00

I have a question. It doesn't matter, but this is not about animals at all. Isn't it crazy that they used to send, like whenever a horse would do something wrong, they'd be like, Well, we're gonna send you to the glue factory. Why did they make horses into glue?

SPEAKER_02

I wasn't asked to prepare for this question. I wasn't asked to prepare the background on glue manufacturing.

SPEAKER_05

I like this one thing, so I made it my whole thing. Now no one wants to talk to me at parties. Please listen to my spiel, because I made it my whole deal. I made it my whole personality.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Hey everyone, welcome back to my whole personality. This episode is. This is gonna be a fun one. This is with my friends Clay and Evan. I've been trying to get them to come on the podcast honestly since before I even had a podcast. And originally we were gonna talk about the polar bear king. I was gonna watch the polar bear king and then like recap it for them. But as it turns out, the polar bear king isn't streaming anywhere in this country. So I had to pivot to Animorphs, and I'm honestly so glad I did. It turned into a really fun conversation, and it it's I mean, it was kind of perfect for them because they got to talk about the things they love most. Um birds of prey. So yeah, they're my first straight men on the podcast that I've had, and it shows. It shows. But I'm excited for you all to listen to this. Um they're just some silly boys. But I I split their episode into two parts. So this first one is gonna be about anamorphs, and the next one's gonna be about Austin Powers, and I'll release them while I've already uploaded them, so they are ready to go while I'm traveling. And for everybody who's been really worried about me, because I've talked about how I know nothing about the trip that I'm about to take, I thought I left on Wednesday. Turns out my flight's on Tuesday, so I still haven't really read the itinerary in depth. But again, it's like a Smithsonian tour. Everything's planned. I don't need to know what we're gonna do, because like there's nothing I can do about it. We're just gonna be like seeing things, and I don't know what those things are, but they'll be there. But I was skimming the itinerary just to, I don't know, make sure I had some stuff packed for it, and I noticed that we are going on a canal cruise. And I was not made aware of that when we decided to book this trip. I did not know that we were gonna be going in any sort of boat situation, so now I'm a little nervous about it, and that's why I don't like to read the itinerary, because now all I can think about is getting on that canal. Um so yeah. Thank you all for listening, and um next week, stay tuned for part two where we talk about where we talk about Austin Powers. Joining me on the podcast today are two of the silliest boys I know. And I was thinking about it actually, Evan. I think you have probably been name-checked on the podcast, maybe number one next to Heather.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00

And it's always something really nice, um, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_03

For the most part. Yeah. No, I think you usually roast me. It's usually some form of roast, but with love, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But these are my friends, Clay and Evan.

SPEAKER_02

Hello. Hello, thanks for having us on.

SPEAKER_00

Of course. Um, will you guys say your names so people know who's who?

SPEAKER_03

I'm Clay. And I'm Evan.

SPEAKER_00

Perfect. Thank you all for coming on. I know that um it's uncomfortable. And did you ever think that you're gonna be friends with somebody who had a podcast?

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, I mean podcasts we've had some.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean I can't imagine they were good people.

SPEAKER_03

It's like all of our buddies, I feel like have, or at least a few of them have dabeled, too. Yeah. So we're we're semi-familiar, sure.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, all right, cool. So you've you're not starstruck. But uh, I was actually, Evan, if it's okay to talk about this.

SPEAKER_04

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Um, no, because I was on the last episode, I talked about how I have I think I have a deviated septum. Mm-hmm. Um, because you and I we don't breathe through our noses.

SPEAKER_03

Never.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then I was thinking um one of my favorite stories about you with permission. Have you heard that story when I had to pick him up from his surgery?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but it's been a while. Please, if we can recap.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think I just I had to get nose surgery because I wasn't breathing. And uh you were kind of well, they they first asked if I wanted to like to what was the medicine or like volume or something?

SPEAKER_00

Valium.

SPEAKER_03

And I was just like, no, I don't need it, it'll be fine. And then as soon as I got in there and I saw all the tools and stuff, I started to panic.

SPEAKER_00

I have a stream of checks. I was like, Evan, let me know if you need me to pick you up. Um, and you're like, no, it's fine, it's fine. And then I get like, oh no, oh God.

SPEAKER_04

I should have taken the medicine.

SPEAKER_00

I'm freaking out. Yeah, and then I pick you up, and I think that they were professional. I was like, I'm expecting you to come out, clean up nothing. You come out with gauze up to your brain.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, my whole like face was just covered in gauze, like up inside of my skull, and it was like bleeding. I was like wiping off the blood from my mouth. And I was like, oh my god, Joey, like, look at this, and you're like, absolutely not. Don't look at me. Like, I'm gonna look out of like this window. We're not gonna talk the whole way home.

SPEAKER_00

We didn't. We had to drive. I had to literally not, it was like if I was merging lanes to the right, I had to pretty much be like, Evan, tell me if I could not look at you. You got out of the car and you were like, I'm so ashamed.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was bad. It was like a walk of shame, like home.

SPEAKER_00

And then yeah, for the next like two months I was miserable, but you sent us though a picture immediately after of him. He was eating mashed potatoes out of a cup, walking the streets of Chicago.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was like my comfort food when I needed to get like immediately after. Wait, why do you have to get I don't have to get it?

SPEAKER_00

I'm just thinking I can't breathe through my nose very well. And like lately, when I've been going to sleep at night, I have to go like this to like pull my skin away from do you is that what happened to you?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, yeah, most nights, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, you you hold your face like that?

SPEAKER_00

I have to hold my face, like I have to fall asleep like that, like pull my pulling my cheek away from my nose because I think something's like collapsing, and I like it's like I think I just need a breathe right strip to just open up my passageways.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that seems like something's wrong. Yeah, because you fall asleep. How are you holding your face like that then?

SPEAKER_00

I know. Well then I I would assume I would wake up the way Evan wakes up, which is gasping for air screaming.

SPEAKER_03

With your life flashing before your eyes, grunting, yeah, night terror, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so but the thing that I'm gonna talk about is anamorphs. Are you all familiar with the animorphs series?

SPEAKER_03

I saw it, like I know what it is. I I wasn't much of a a reader of books in my youth or now, but I like I know what it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, did you the books and the it's a show too, right? And my understanding is they're kids who morph into animals, is that correct?

SPEAKER_00

Clay, you nailed it on the head. It's about a group of kids who are given powers to morph into any animal they touch. And um why they're given that power is because there's um there's an alien that crashes to earth and he uh gives them a cube and they touch it. I'm doing a really bad job of recapping this already. But basically, then an alien has crashed to earth and he says, Listen, there's gonna be other aliens that are gonna come after me, they're not gonna be as nice. I'm gonna help you all fight them because they want to take over your world, and so he gives them the power to morph into animals.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Which I don't know that that would be a super helpful power, but so that's why they have those.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you'd think an alien they'd maybe have some other technology that they could provide that would be more helpful.

SPEAKER_03

So this is like episode or book one.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's just what the yeah, the sets the stage. It sets the stage, and the evil the evil um alien that are coming to take over the world, their names are the Yerkes.

SPEAKER_02

All right. I vaguely remember that. Aren't they like little like slug things or something?

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Yeah, they put slugs in your ear.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've got some vague memories of it. Yeah, some vague fears. Are you still reading the books? I mean, I'm like, I got them on the shelf.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's 54 books. Uh-huh. Okay. It was written by a husband and wife team, and they came up with the idea for it while they were walking past a dumpster in Florida.

SPEAKER_03

What was the dumpster giving?

SPEAKER_00

There's probably an animal in there screaming. Slowly being yeah, changed. Um, I don't know. I don't know why. That she just said we walked past the dumpster and came up with the idea.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, what where are you getting this information?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I forgot. I actually couldn't say that. Is this somebody who somebody told you one time and you Which is funny you bring that up because that does come up in the Lord of the Rings recap where I was like, I basically spew misinformation.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So just take that with a grain of salt.

SPEAKER_03

There's gonna be plenty of that.

SPEAKER_00

So the books were published between 1996 and 2001. There are 54 books.

SPEAKER_02

96 and 2000, so five years.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Okay. So that's like 10 books a year.

SPEAKER_02

Is it one author or is it like a team?

SPEAKER_00

It's a husband and wife team, but I think that they had ghostwriters. Okay. Moving. They did, they definitely did, because I had one, I found one on Reddit. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

A ghostwriter?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Were they like given a bunch of secrets about the process for writing an animorph book and stuff?

SPEAKER_00

Or I think she said that the um the husband and wife, they would give the ghostwriters like what the basic bullet points and plot that they wanted to happen, and then they would take that. And then I think a lot. I think like Nora Roberts does that. You guys probably don't know who Nora Roberts is. She writes very um sexy books.

SPEAKER_03

Smut. The type of books you're reading.

SPEAKER_00

I read them when I was young.

SPEAKER_02

Um Anamorphs and Animorphs and Nora Roberts.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It was very comp conflicted as a kid. So they didn't they adapted the books for a TV show that ran from '98 to '99. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

So we're talking like kind of contemporaneous with Austin Powers then.

SPEAKER_00

Very much so.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

A lot of synergy there.

SPEAKER_00

A film adaption was announced in 2020.

SPEAKER_03

So it's like still on the table.

SPEAKER_00

It's still on the table.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But the author that was involved in Anna that wrote Animorphs, um, she is not gonna be involved in the show for creative differences.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. So wait, the original writer. Yeah. What about her husband?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, he's doing it. So are they having creative differences, the two of them?

SPEAKER_00

So let me ask you all this. If you and your ladies were having creative differences, would you plow on forward with a project?

SPEAKER_02

Um, you can't not, right? Well, something as important as the animals, you know. I would I would guess.

SPEAKER_00

He's got to carry that torch.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00

Um, sorry, I thought I heard a mouse. Uh um.

SPEAKER_02

Evan's got PT. Don't tell Evan about it. He's got his head on a swivel.

unknown

I forgot.

SPEAKER_00

Poor Evan, for those who don't know, he was attacked by a mouse um a couple weeks ago.

SPEAKER_03

It was one made its way into my apartment, and yeah, five or six hours later we got it out.

SPEAKER_00

But you covered it in olive oil and sent it out on its way.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I almost killed it, you know, because uh I used a glue trap and I didn't realize until after it was very inhumane. So then I was trying to figure out how to help the mouse now that I trapped it, and I found out that olive oil can can free them from the glue, and and it did.

SPEAKER_02

We were just talking about this, and this none of this part came up. I didn't realize that olive oil was part of the plan.

SPEAKER_00

I hope that mouse didn't run into an open flame.

SPEAKER_03

It might have, but at least at that point, like my conscience was clear because I like set it free. Your hands were clean. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

So I don't want to get us too far off track, but now I gotta know like what's the olive oil, what does it do? Is it sticky?

SPEAKER_03

Like, how do you Well, do you know what the glue traps I'm aw yeah, I know what they're doing? So like it got stuck, and I we weren't anticipating that it would just be like screaming and like squealing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was awful. Yeah, so then I was like Chat GPT, like trying to figure out like you know, what and then it was they were like, Oh, well, that's actually the most inhumane way to like trap a mouse. And so then I was like moral dilemma at like 3:30 in the a.m. in the morning. Sure. Then I'm asking chat, like, how do you get this mouse out once it's stuck? And it said, you can try. Well, it said euthanize it, it said find a shovel. And I was like, Well, okay, I'm not doing that. So what's option uh B or C?

SPEAKER_02

And then it was coming out of the gate hot with suggestions. Uh let's try something else first. I think that's the last probably option.

SPEAKER_03

But they're like, Do you have any bricks laying around? No. Um, so then it said you can try olive oil and like pour it on it, and it can like break up the glue. But my my girlfriend had just spent like a bunch of money on some like craft olive oil, like health foods or something. That's like all we had. So I like went to her and I was like, hey, like, and she was like, it's fine. I was like, I'll pay you back or whatever. So I take it outside and this like really bougie like olive oil. I'm like dumping on top of, or I'm trying to go like around it, but I like dump it on its back and its head a little bit, and it's like freaking out. But oh my gosh. Within like 60 seconds, so it like you could see the glue was like getting loose and it was like pulling its arms and legs out, and then it got away.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and then you like saw it scurry off.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like it may or may not have broken its arm. Like it kind of its arm was like in a weird position when it was stuck, but it got out and then it like it like licked itself and then it like ran across the street, and I was like, okay. Now you can sleep. You know, my conscience is like slightly clear. You did what you could. Anything after this is like not my liability. Sure. And uh yeah, and then I went to bed at 5 a.m. in the morning. I had that and that was Sunday night, and I had to be up at work at like seven the next morning, so it was terrible. Yeah, it took me a couple weeks to recover. Are you sleeping again yet? Or not not yet.

SPEAKER_00

You still wake, you wake up at night and think about him. I was I would thought I was saying, are you ripping that mask off still?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that and then that contributes to the night tears and all that. So yeah, you know, it's didn't help.

SPEAKER_00

So did you know to have both of his jaws broken for his sleep apnea?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

Have you thought about that?

SPEAKER_02

I'm just paying. But now the wheels are turning and haven't said now. I'm like, is that what I'm gonna have to do?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Something to think about.

SPEAKER_03

Uh no. I mean, do you know any of the details about that?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

You're like, consult like your doctor and they can tell you about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Ask your doctor if having both of your jaws broken is right for you.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I might need it, it just keeps getting worse and worse. So is that good podcast content?

SPEAKER_04

That's perfect podcast content.

SPEAKER_00

One of the things that people remember most about the Animorphs books are the covers.

SPEAKER_03

That's one of the few things I never remember. It's like the phases of them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

One of my favorite parts about the covers, I'm gonna pull some up here so you can see, is then the taglines that they have on the books. I feel like were are so just like um bad.

SPEAKER_02

I don't remember the taglines. There was taglines involved. So here's this one.

SPEAKER_00

This tagline is so many yerks, so little time.

SPEAKER_02

Did you read that one?

SPEAKER_00

I think I read all of them. I must not have read the last one because I did Google how it ends, and it ends really terribly.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, they aren't like standalone stories, like stuff they like build off of each other over 54 novels.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And um, it turns out one of the kids, spoiler alert, becomes kind of like a war criminal, and they all die, I think. One of them for sure dies, and then the rest of them are in a spaceship crash.

SPEAKER_02

So your childhood was a combination of that and what's it? Nora Roberts.

SPEAKER_00

Nora Roberts books. Um, because these made me laugh really hard. I used to work at um, I used to work at the ad agency that I worked at um with this guy named Jonathan. He was another copywriter, and he was one of the funniest people ever. And uh I think I was like stoned during the pandemic and found those books and those taglines. And I think I texted him and was like, can you do a dramatic reading of these? And then I've just saved it for all these years.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, what's up? It's Jonathan with Go Voices here to give you a few takes for Animorphs. Take one. A mistake has been made. His name is David. B. A mistake has been made. His name is David.

SPEAKER_03

Oh he has a very good like speaking voice. He does. He could do like audiobooks. Very sultry. It could be very sultry for your smut books.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he could, yeah. That's just what I want to hear. A dear friend reading. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'll do it.

SPEAKER_00

He was he fell off a ski lift, broke his face, and now he can never go to space or scuba dive or be a pilot.

SPEAKER_03

Is it like science sinus?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he like broke his orbital bone.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Oh, that's something you guys can you have in common.

SPEAKER_00

You think I broke it? Oh, not being able to breathe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

They broke mine to child.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, another random fact about Animorphs, many of the names for her alien creatures were named. She just looked at street signs and jumbled the letters.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, interesting. Because one of the signs, there's like, I think if you if so when you morph into your animal, you can only stay in it for two hours. Otherwise, you're permanently stuck in that animal.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's a good thing to know. I didn't realize.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there are some rules. And then once you're stuck in that, if you are stuck in that animal forever, you're called like a no slit.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You really is this based on reality?

SPEAKER_03

Like this can happen in real life.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes. This is a true story.

SPEAKER_03

This is how birds exist, is like animorphs that stayed too long. Or mice. Or mice. Hopefully not.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, my god, that could have been somebody's son. Or daughter. Okay, so part of being an animorph is you have you can turn into anything, okay? But you because these kids are at war, you have a battle morph, which is like the animal you turn in to go to battle in, and then you have a flight morph, which is the one that you can use to fly. So my question for you all is what would your battle morph be? And what would your flight morph be?

SPEAKER_03

Can I ask a couple questions just for context? Okay, so like we said slugs. Are are we fighting slugs?

SPEAKER_00

The slugs go into people's ears and control them and make them do things that are bad.

SPEAKER_03

So we're fighting humans that are controlled by aliens?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think so. And then I think there are also aliens. Like in the recap, I'm gonna read for you all. There's a there's an alien with hooves.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yes?

SPEAKER_03

And then I guess where are the battlefields? Are they like on the ground? Oh, I don't know. Air, space, in water.

SPEAKER_00

Let's assume they're on land.

SPEAKER_02

And we're battling basically their animorphs are battling humans.

SPEAKER_00

You guys are asking a lot of questions that I that I don't have the answers for. You should know the answers. Not other animals.

SPEAKER_03

You're the expert, Joey.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Um wait, do you know? Like, because I like- they're battling the yerks.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right, right. But I've seen like they changed into sharks, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So something had to go on in the ocean, right? The animorphs have changed into sharks? Yeah, I think I remember like a book like of a shark.

SPEAKER_00

There's a shark, there's an octopus.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I think something happens in the ocean.

SPEAKER_00

So at one point that it will be relevant to have a battle. Okay, then all right, what's your land battle morph?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, now you're adding on here. Okay. It's good information. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's helpful. Okay, could you recap?

SPEAKER_00

So a flight, a flight, a land battle, and a sea battle.

SPEAKER_03

A land battle and a sea battle. Okay. Alright, should we start with like land? Let's start with land.

SPEAKER_00

Let's start with land. I don't have that because I just said orca because I wanted an easy out for half of 50% of the wars. But now I'm on draft. What's it called? When you s when you when you avoid the draft.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. Draft dodger? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, respect. That's fine.

SPEAKER_00

Um we don't we don't respect veterans on this podcast.

SPEAKER_03

I'm thinking like, you know, apex predators. I'm thinking like a lion or a tiger. Or like a a bear.

SPEAKER_00

I could see bear for you. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Or like uh like a gorilla. I think a gorilla, you know, could could uh they'll rip your arms off. I'm just like exactly. Um this is like devolved into like a Joe Rogan podcast. Where we're like, what's who would win in a fight? A silverback gorilla or a grizzly bear?

SPEAKER_00

I knew this was a risk when I invited you all on.

SPEAKER_03

Just say you wanted to talk about Joe Rogan. And we we could uh we'd have hours of content. Uh I don't know, I feel like a cat. Like I want to be probably like a like a like a tiger.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm locked in tiger, finally.

SPEAKER_00

I think I'm locked in Panther because they are violent and sneaky.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so we got a couple cats. I like that no surprise. I like that. I mean, you said Apex Predator. Immediately my mind goes, can I be morphined to Indominus Rex from the Jurassic World series? Or that's a good question. Can we do dinosaurs?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you have to be able to touch whatever it is, so they could like a bunch of dinosaur bone. I wonder.

SPEAKER_02

Go see Sue at the There's so many bones. There you go. Yeah. Transaurus Rex? I'll allow it. Okay, great. That'll be my answer then.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Tranasaurus Rex.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Can you imagine showing up to a battle and being like, well shit.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone else is like, I didn't know we could be a T-Rex. What the hell?

SPEAKER_00

Just head on over to the field museum.

SPEAKER_03

Sue, real quick. That's awesome. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But then you find out that it's actually Sue, those aren't real dinosaur bones, and it's like something else. Conspiracy. And then you turn into, I don't know what it would be, like like um ground up horse hooves.

SPEAKER_02

No way, you think you think the alternative of it being actual dinosaur bones would be ground up horse.

SPEAKER_00

I think that Sioux doesn't exist. I think that dinosaurs that never exist.

SPEAKER_02

And this is what Joe rails about all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Now we're finally getting on the topic. Horse hooves.

SPEAKER_03

Is this your like conspiracy theory? Like your main one?

SPEAKER_00

Dinosaurs don't exist. It's all ground up bones.

SPEAKER_03

You think they've been like planted, right? And buried in. Yeah. I mean, wouldn't they just like couldn't they just like do like a cast and just make it more?

SPEAKER_00

Well, they could, but oh yeah, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03

They want to use make it more realistic. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00

In case they DNA test it and they're like, there are trace of animals in here.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I have a question. It doesn't matter, but this is not about animals at all.

SPEAKER_03

Oh guys.

SPEAKER_00

Isn't it crazy that they used to send like whenever a horse would do something wrong, they'd be like, Well, we're gonna send you to the glue factory. Why did they make horses into glue?

SPEAKER_02

I wasn't asked to prepare for this question. I wasn't asked to prepare the background on glue manufacturing.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not familiar with the the lore here. What is this?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I don't know. I think they use parts of horses to make glue, or they used to. And to that, I how did you come to that?

SPEAKER_03

Do you have a fact checker in this pocket? Like I specifically don't allow that.

SPEAKER_00

No, we do not. You guys, I've turned the internet off your phones.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_00

Is that why my phone's gonna be?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was gonna say I entered a dead spot when I came into the apartment. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so you're what's your oh you said okay, it's direct.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, in domin. Well, if I can go Indominus Rex from the Jurassic World series of movies, I'll go there. But is that the bad guy or the good guy? That was the one that they like genetically modified or something like that. That was a different one. Oh I haven't seen them in a long time. We actually just watched the rebirth one though that you were raving about for a long time. That your mom said what?

SPEAKER_00

Okay. It was the best time of her life. Or she hasn't had that much fun in years.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, that was it. Yeah, yeah. So silly. And what is the what did you guys think about it?

SPEAKER_02

It was fine. It was yeah, I mean, I thought it was pretty good. Okay, I loved it. Yeah. It's it's just like a Jurassic movie. You like Jurassic Park movies? Uh no. Okay, well then you probably wouldn't like it.

SPEAKER_00

So I've already said my water, my water fighter is an orca whale.

SPEAKER_03

In why?

SPEAKER_00

You want to or do we debris faster than we all? That's okay, but they're so smart and they can be violent, which Allie and I have different opinions about. And I think it'd be cool to swim that fast. And they they open up animals and eat their livers for sport.

SPEAKER_02

So you yeah, and you and Allie do have this argument. So it sounds to me like you are now admitting that maybe orcas are the more bloodthirsty killers.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, you don't need to be a spokesperson right now.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just saying, if you were one of the.

SPEAKER_00

I I I I think they're smarter. And so that's why in a battle specifically, because you do have to also factor in uh oh, I didn't tell you all this. The animal does kind of you have to fight the animal's urges when you're in the animal.

SPEAKER_03

So you so the the animal urges can take over and you lose control?

SPEAKER_00

You can. In the episode, I watched a girl turn into a cat and almost ate her friend who was a mouse.

SPEAKER_03

But that's interesting and also good to know. I was just thinking, like, am I safe choosing a tiger? I think I'm fine.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so what's your old liquid one? I'm liquid.

SPEAKER_02

The liquid one. Um, I'd probably go with uh what was that big dinosaur at the end of Jurassic World that jumped up and ate the T-Rex or whatever at the end? I'd probably go with that one. A Mosasaurus? Is that what it's called?

SPEAKER_00

You're obsessed with Jurassic World.

SPEAKER_03

See, that's the thing about those movies, is like they keep becoming like more mutated, like as they like as well.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's a real one though. I think that aquatic one. At the end of Jurassic, the first Jurassic World, I think, was. Oh. Maybe I'm mixing them up, but one of them was like it was like the first one of the Jurassic World series. It's like a dinosaur? That's like, what's that one? Uh Megalodon.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I no, I did a Megalodon. You know what?

SPEAKER_04

You switched me to now you blocked it.

SPEAKER_00

I have a shirt that says Megalodon on it. I thought they were real. I mean, they were at one point. To some people.

SPEAKER_02

Another conspiracy. Some people think so. You are not one of them.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_02

No, they still exist.

SPEAKER_00

That's what that documentary tricked me into.

SPEAKER_02

With Jason Statham, that documentary that you watch. Sharknado? Is that what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_00

It could happen. Global warming. If you believe in that sort of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's one conspiracy I do not subscribe to.

SPEAKER_02

So anyway, I'm locking it. Yeah, I'm locking it.

SPEAKER_03

I think I think I would choose a dolphin because they're also intelligent and they're very nimble, very quick. So that's yeah, that's my answer.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I ride with the dolphins. And I'm pretty sure in a pack they can kill an orca.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god! We're fighting on the same team.

SPEAKER_03

They kill orcas. Orcas respect dolphins. Facts.

SPEAKER_00

You think I you so you just want me to respect you?

SPEAKER_02

Do you have the ability to put like a fact stamp on the like fact? That was like Evan just declaring a lot. Now I will. Me and my team will take on. Can we drop a fact sound uh sound cue in the room?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we can have a sound for it. Okay, then your flight morph. Um I think that once you've seen one bird, you've seen them all, so this one's hard.

SPEAKER_03

That is not, I don't know if that's true. I'm thinking of like a pigeon versus like a bald eagle. Like there's a difference there. And I pick a pigeon. The most cunning of the bird family, the pigeon. Pigeons are what's the whole that whole conspiracy? They're like they're like uh surveillance, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because we made them in a lab.

SPEAKER_03

No, because she's like, wait, wait, let me get this.

SPEAKER_02

We uh who's we, by the way? Joe's got a team of scientists in the lab working on some of this stuff.

SPEAKER_00

We they were they were brought to America and used as pets to send messages to people, either in war or friendship.

SPEAKER_03

Like World War II.

SPEAKER_00

And then we stopped caring about them, and so now they just like run free.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, just like all of our other veterans. They're veterans.

SPEAKER_05

You're right. You're right. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I mean, well, having done just the sprung on me, having done really no research, I would probably say uh peregrine falcon.

SPEAKER_00

I thought you were gonna say a pterodactyl.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my gosh, I should have said that. No, but it was the peregrine falcon, isn't that like the fastest mammal or animal on earth? It can fly at like more than 100 miles an hour, and then when it dives, it's like 200 plus miles an hour. So you're really like zipping in and out of there.

SPEAKER_03

Fun fact, and this may or may not be true. I think like actual military fighter jets are like designed based on a paragraph and falcon.

SPEAKER_00

I regret so much having boys on this podcast.

SPEAKER_03

We're just mansplaying more. So, Joe, do you know what uh I like that answer? That's a good answer. Yeah, I was appreciate that. I'm uh in terms of like birds of prey, like I usually rock with owls. I think owls are cool.

SPEAKER_02

And this is in the context of like battle, right? Because also, again, not having done any research or anything on this, there's a a bird called an Arctic Turn or something that lives in the Arctic and then migrates to the Antarctic during the summer. So it's that far?

SPEAKER_00

Or wait. Yeah, it's far. Okay, is that the polar opposite?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, oh yeah. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00

Don't explain the polls.

SPEAKER_02

Don't say pole to pole. Look, you're the one making it weird, alright? Um, no, I like that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

But this is for battle, right? We're talking battle.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I think so.

SPEAKER_03

In the context of Animal.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, let's say battle.

SPEAKER_03

But it could also be like surveillance, right? And surveillance. Right, okay. Um yeah, I feel like eagle or like hawk comes to mind. But also albatross.

SPEAKER_00

You guys know the names of so many birds.

SPEAKER_03

Big bird guys. Yeah, no, those are the ones that can like they'll fly, like they're huge, and they also can fly for like weeks at a time. They just like don't leave the air, and they can just like sleep and like yes, in the air, yeah. They just like don't leave. They're like, I think they're in like the Galapagos Islands or something like that, or but they'll like fly across the Pacific or whatever. You got a lot of fact-checking to do after this. Fact, yeah, fact-check that. Like that would that seem interesting to just be able to like, you know, fly just for a month and just be up there. But I think in the same like thought of you know, the dolphin just being fast and nimble, I would probably do like a hawk.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Hawk lock it in.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I put down, I mean, I did this, or I could change my answer at any time, but I wrote down probably a crow.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Because they are smart, and maybe that then I could be again, I can't reiterate enough, I don't want to fight. So I could be more surveillant, I could be like the spy.

SPEAKER_02

Crows are like real smart, right?

SPEAKER_00

They teach them to do they bring you trinkets.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Crow, they eat like I'm thinking like a vulture, but they also eat like gross stuff, right?

SPEAKER_00

I think they eat garbage.

SPEAKER_03

So fit in for you. They're big, yeah. That's like their main dietary source is is uh garbage. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Anything else you want to say about Animars? Then we can take a break and get into Austin Powers.

SPEAKER_03

Should we hop into uh like reading the novels again? Do you think that they're still uh Can we borrow your copies?

SPEAKER_00

I found some Reddit threads that people read them as an adult and thought they were different. Like I think they're mixed reviews. I think that they were like, I didn't realize somebody said, and I'm skimming here. Somebody said like they handle death really well. So they obviously were dark, but I don't really remember them being all that dark.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll pick it up.

SPEAKER_00

They're yeah, they're real quick reads. Um 54 of them.

SPEAKER_02

They better be at 54 of them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I already told you how it ends, so thanks for listening to my whole personality. This podcast is edited and produced by me, Joanna Clark. Theme music by Rebecca Jaffe. If you like this podcast, please like, subscribe, rate it, review it, wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_04

Bye bye.