Breathe Right Strips and Happy Endings (the TV show)

Joanna reveals that horses can't breathe through their mouths. (FACT!) Maureen explains why Happy Endings is one of the best shows ever made and why she'll never kiss someone with a septum ring.

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Produced and edited by Joanna Clark
Theme music by Rebecca Jaffe
Podcast art by Michelle Hong (michelleyhong.com)

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

There was I went through phases. I was really into like prod adds and creaks and bugs. Cute. And then all of a sudden, it was I worked at a tanning bed. You know. And then I got laid off from that tanning bed.

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Yeah, they were like, you just there's something about you. You don't seem like you have what it takes to be a sun tanker.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

I was afraid of the beds. Yeah. People would come in and be like, what should I do? And I'm like, you shouldn't be here.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

I like this one thing, so I made it my whole thing. Now no one wants to talk to me at parties. Please listen to my spiel, because I made it my whole deal. I made it my whole personality. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Hey everyone, welcome back to my whole personality. This episode is with my friend Maureen. You might remember her from a previous episode where we talked about sex in the city, and she talked about sex in the city, why that's important to her, and I talked about Twilight and why that's important to me. And I also talked about dating a blacksmith, which comes up in this episode again. So maybe a future episode of my whole personality will be having dated a blacksmith or having a blacksmith as an ex. This episode is also one of the first, or it is the first, video episode, like full video episode that I'm putting out on Patreon. And you can watch it for free. So if you want to see us as we talk about happy endings and uh breathe right strips, which was my very cool topic, you can go watch it at patreon.com slash my whole personality. And it's for free, and it's the full episode. So check it out. We are wearing breathe right strips for the entire episode. Um Maureen took hers off, but I left mine on because as I've said multiple times on this podcast, my nose is collapsing, I think, or something's wrong. But I hope you all enjoy this episode, and I'll see you in a couple weeks. Okay, also, sorry, it's me again, I'm back. I wanted to add an apology, just a preemptive apology. I am not proud of how this episode started. Sometimes I'll say things and then I'll think, Why did you say that? Um, and that happens like pretty much immediately in this episode. And um, if you are listening with kids, uh don't. I don't know, maybe they'll learn something, but I don't think they should. Okay, thank you. Bye-bye. Well, joining me on the podcast today, back again, is my dear friend Maureen. Yeah, it's Carrie Bradshaw. It's that Carrie Bradshaw. I'm so happy to have you on. And honestly, well, since since you were on this podcast, you've been a thought leader on another podcast about Carrie Bradshaw.

SPEAKER_03 2:52

Yeah, I'm actually, I'm not allowed contractually to go on podcasts unless I'm talking about sex in the city. Um, this is me breaking that contract today. Yeah. Um, I was, I was on end just like Yap talking about Carrie, and I do feel like it was kind of just an extension of our conversation, but I was specifically drilling down on the episode where she goes to Staten Island.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Oh, yeah, that's a good one. It's a great one. One of the best, one of the best that we have. It's a good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Did you pick that episode or okay I actually picked it because I thought it was the episode where John's Lattery asks Carrie to pee on him. Yeah. But I was too early.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Yeah, pee on, yeah. He wanted to pee on, or no, did she want to did he want to pee on her or did he want her to pee on him?

SPEAKER_03 3:33

First of all, thank you for calling me in. You know what I mean? It's it's love is love no matter what. And I I think that he did want her to pee on him. Okay. I'm pretty sure. There's no way to make that hot. I don't think so. And I don't want to kink shame, but also I do like often. I didn't mean to I didn't even mean to bring this up.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

Yeah. Well, but it actually does remind me of something that I was talking about last night. Okay. Did you know that if you are in a tight spot and you're thirsty, it's better to drink a boy's pee than drink a girl's pee. Why? Because the boy's pee is more sterile. I hope I wasn't on some like red pill, like, but because this is okay, this is the manosphere told you this.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Yeah. Um, if you have kids in the car, turn this off. Um because a woman's pee has to go through more folds. And so a man's pea comes out just straight, and so it's sterile. What do you mean? It's more sterile. More folds. Like I thought all of our insights kind of made the same shape. Well, think about I hate this on what we're starting. I like it. Think about think about pea coming out of a penis.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

Okay. Hey, I'm in.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Yeah, you're like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 4:45

Another day in paradise. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

It comes out straight. It's just like a hose.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

And then thinking, and then with a woman, it's like a rock feature. Where, you know, so it's picking up um a rock debris. It's picking up debris along the way. Yeah. So if you're ever rock climbing and you're like, oh, I'm stuck here. My arm is stuck in this rock. I'm gonna have to eat it.

SPEAKER_03 5:11

Eat it. Yeah, eat it off.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Which is what happened in 27 hours.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

127, I think.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Oh god, it would I would have done it in 27 hours.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

I would have done it in five minutes.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

I have done it. I've been waiting to eat my arm.

SPEAKER_03 5:23

But just say, is there a boy here? Can I drink his pee? Is there anyone, is there any young boy here who would like me to drink his pee?

SPEAKER_02 5:29

Okay, I'm gonna spoil something again. This is also something I was writing about today. So I'm doing um a podcast next week about motion sickness.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

One of the cures that people used to think was you drink a young boy's pee.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

So that reminds me of the I know that this is neither of our culture, but in Nathan for You, there is a scene. Did you watch that show? No, I know, but I feel like I should. There is a scene. Is he anxious? Yeah, it makes me really anxious. Like I can't watch it because I I know that the they are real people interacting with him, and I feel bad for them. But there is an episode where someone gets him because he's like doing a bit with this gas station attendant, and then the gas station attendant is like, I drink my grandson's pea to ward away the sickness. And he was like dead serious. And then Nathan Fielder has to be like, Wait, what?

unknown 6:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

And it was a joke. Uh no, it he was dead serious. He was just like a guy, just like a random man who was like, I drink my grandson's pee to ward off sickness. That poor grandson. I don't even know if he knows. You know what I mean? I guess like pea collection is one of those things where like, I don't know that the other party has to be aware that you're drinking their pee. Do you get a ladle and go into a toilet?

SPEAKER_02 6:35

I guess that wouldn't be as pure. No. Which brings us back. Comes back to rock climbing. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm trying to be respectful of your time.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

Trying to be respectful of my time after I showed up an hour late.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

But welcome to the podcast, Maureen. What a horrible way to introduce you. I liked it. My topic that I I've chosen for you today is something that um I've recently come to, I've recently discovered, and I don't know why it took me so long. But um, uh, have you ever used a breathe right strip?

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Weirdly, I have not. Despite being a very nasal person my whole life, I did use one once because I thought it was a pore strip. Oh. And that is a memory from Girl Scout camp that will live on forever in here. But did you rip it off like a pore strip? Sure did. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

Well, I have some, I have some here. If you want to put one on, you can. Um I so for the longest time I've been saying something's collapsing, something's collapsing in my nose because I have to fall asleep like this. Hmm. And then I don't know why, but I was like preparing for my trip to Holland and I was at the pharmacy, and um I saw these and I was like, I'm gonna get them. And because I was having pre-chravel anxiety, I took an edible and I put these on and I went to bed. And when I woke up, I had a nosebleed. I was breathing so good. You got the the blood flowing. The blood flowing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

So ASMR.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

Um, oh yeah, please. Here's ASMR of me sticking it to my skin. So then yeah, you put it over your oh this side. So now we're putting the breathe right strips over our noses. You're gonna want to do it right in the middle of your nose, not too high, not too low. Yeah. Hold it down for 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_03 8:18

I can't wait to breathe right. I remember these commercials.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

Wow, my nose, I'm realizing like just looking at you, is such a different shape than yours. Is it? Yeah, like my nose is so I feel like I have a penis-shaped nose.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Well, you could drink pea out of there and it'd be fine.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Any pea comes out of my nose, it's good to drink.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Okay. Oh, yeah. So it kind of flares your nostrils open a little bit. You know what I mean? It really does.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

How does this work? Like, what's the science in here? All right.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

So I'm so glad you asked.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Yeah, like okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

So the first thing that I'm gonna talk about. So these have been around, like, you know, snoring's been around forever. So I was just kind of curious because I was like, okay, this helps for snoring, but I don't really snore. It's just, I mean, I don't think I snore, nobody's nobody's told you. Yeah, it's been a long time since I've like lepals on my but I don't think I do. But I was like, you know, just like thinking about the history of you know, snoring interventions. So I did a little research. Okay. So, like, you know, a long time ago. So in um 1550 BC. Damn. I I went back. Damn. Yeah. Okay. So the Egyptians used to use time. I don't know, like, you know, the herb, whatever. And um, then there was also this um anti-snoring mask, which I'm gonna show you a picture of where um first I'm gonna describe it to you. Um so they had these a couple anti-snoring masks. One is like an early version of mouth tape, which I think is the most horrifying thing you can do to somebody. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

Mouth tape. I I will say Amazon was listening to me once and they just sent me mouth tape for free. Just like came in the mail, never opened it, never used it. Really? I think I'm a really good case for it, but I'm scared. So I haven't.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

That one sometime one time Amazon sent my friend some underwear.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Like And they were like, you need this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

She was like, the she just got underwear in the mail from Amazon. I think it was like a mistake, but now I'm kind of wondering if they sent it to her.

unknown 9:59

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

I don't know. Um, but so you've never used mouth tape? Nope, never used it. I think it's so dangerous. Yeah. Why? Well, because I can't breathe through my nose.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

So I just so the idea of cutting off the oxygen supply is really scary. It's really scary.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

So they have this anti-snoring mask, and it looked, I think it's leather, but what I'm looking at right now, it looks like a rusty iron door they have strapped over somebody's face, and then there's this other thing, because it you can snore through your nose or you can snore through your throat. Again, I want to make it clear. I don't snore, I just can't breathe.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

I just can't breathe. Just one of my nostrils is collapsing.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

One of my nostrils is collapsing. It's a this thing where you pull your jaw forward or you pull your tongue forward, and it's supposed to like keep your tongue from flapping and making you snore. Okay, so I'm gonna actually just turn my computer on so you can see. Look how scared this guy is.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

He looks so upset. He's so upset. Oh my god, that looks like a torture device. That looks like a medieval torture device. Isn't that crazy? It it looks also like the Hannibal mask. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

The Hannibal? I've never seen that. Is he the one that takes people's skins? Silence of the lambs. Yeah, looks like that. Okay. So those were some early interventions. My mom, this is not medieval times, but it might as well be. My mom had her uvula removed.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

Which is that dangling thing throat to help her from stop snoring.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:22

What?

SPEAKER_02 11:23

So whenever she goes to the doctor and they're like, open up, they're like, whoa. She's like, not there. Don't scare. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? That is nuts. I don't think it helps. Okay, here's my favorite intervention for snoring. Are you ready? So during the Revolutionary War, soldiers who snored, they would sew a cannonball into the back of their suit so they couldn't roll over on their back and snore. So it was like they had to sleep on their side. They would literally sew a cannonball into their suits.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

Well, I bet that was pretty effective. You don't want to sleep on a cannonball.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Right. But then also, like, what if some I don't know, like in war, shouldn't you be kind of like ready to go? Like, what if something happened in the middle of the night? Hold on, I got this cannonball on you.

unknown 12:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

Yeah. I also like, I do feel like you've earned the right to snore if you're fighting at war. You know what I mean? I get that other people don't want to listen to it so much, but I am a little bit like, all right, well, everybody needs to sleep, right? Right. I don't know. This is kind of how I feel about on Love Island when people are having sex all in that one big room that they're in. Yeah. Because I'm like, it's cool that you guys are horny, but also like you guys just spend all day in the sun. I'm sure some people would really like to get to bed.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

Some people have sun poisoning.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Some people have sun poisoning, some people have alcohol poisoning.

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Like, let's all go to bed. I think if I were to go on Love Island, I would have to really pay attention to my diet.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

Okay. Yeah. And I I swear to God, they only eat avocado toast.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Oh, and protein. I feel like that was like a joke. Somebody's like, can you imagine the excuse me, the protein farts?

SPEAKER_03 12:54

The protein shits, creatine shits. Just yeah. How many bathrooms are there in there? They should be more.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

Well, I think there's like a boys and a girls, and then I don't, there must be like stalls in there, but I don't think there's, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

They need more. I can't imagine sleeping in an orphanage room with all of those boys and with like everyone who has a collective IQ of 100. You know what I mean? It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Did you know that I slept in a mixed gender hostel room in Ireland? Isn't that crazy? That sounds so untrue.

SPEAKER_03 13:21

So unlike you. I know. What how was that for you? Was it weird? Were you drunk?

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Not really, but I I fell in love. Okay, so now I'm gonna tell you about the history about breathright strips. Yeah, please stay. Any day now I'll get better at podcasting. No worries. We don't need to. No. Not today. Okay, so they're invented by a guy named Bruce Johnson. Okay. He invented the breathright strip in the 1980s while he had a deviated septum. Yep. And was unemployed.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

Hello?

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Now, what do you think about that? I didn't, but I bolded that as soon as I found it.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Okay. I do think a lot of people's best uh inventions or like best creations do come from when they are unemployed. And my astrology apps are fucking screaming at me every day at knife point, like this is the time. And I'm like, for what? For what? I know. They're like, do it now. And I'm like, yes, I will. Pick yourself up, girl, and go. Do do your dream now. Pluto is in a house and it's important that you do your dream. And I'm like, okay, I'll go do another unpaid show. I'll do two open mics this week.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

I'll go lose money on parking.

SPEAKER_03 14:39

Yeah, literally, I will lose $30 to go park and then eat McDonald's after a show. Mm-hmm. But maybe we can make free thrace trips. Yeah. Did he was he married? Did he have like a wife? His family laughed at him. Yeah. Was his wife like, if you don't get your deviated septum fix, I'm gonna leave you for a man with a real job. And a better nose. And a better nose. Probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Yeah. So he made that. And then he first used um paper clips. And I don't know how, but I can't imagine. To open up his nasal packages. Passages. Packages back.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

I've got another nose box for you guys. Unboxing my first nose. I hope that it's the little pink one. Um, but if it's not, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

So then he pitched it to this company called CNS and they bought it because they were thinking, this is great. You know who needs this? Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice? Do you know who that is? No. He's an NFL player.

SPEAKER_03 15:32

Okay, that's what I thought. Right. I was like, if you're like the football. You know who Jerry Rick is? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

Like, if we're talking about him, it's not the it's not the football. They pitched it for they thought NFL players really like it. And then I think that they Jerry Rice wore one, and that's when it was like, okay, Jerry Rice. If Jerry Rice is doing it, we all need to be doing it. Yeah. So then they all started wearing breathe rights strips.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

So he was basically like the first influencer. Yes. Damn. Influencer for breathe rights strips. I bet I didn't get any money for it either. Just got like an easy breathy nose. Are they wearing them during the games?

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Yeah. So now, you know, I don't watch a lot of football, but I I You don't? I think if you were to turn on a football game right now, I I I I am now having a memory. I think that they wear these during games now. That it does make a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_03 16:17

I think you'll especially like when you're exercising, as you know, I'm very fond of. Um but when I am exercising, oftentimes I do end up getting kind of like a runny or stuffy nose because you're doing a lot of like breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out. So I do think it actually makes sense. Plus, if you get hit in the face as many times as they do, yeah, their noses are collapsed. For sure, their noses are collapsed.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

Yeah, that actually makes a ton of sense. I know. So it's like a performance answer. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:45

I'm gonna text two football people and just see.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Yeah, see if they wear breathe right strips. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

You know football people? I know a couple lesbians, they do be doing football.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Okay. I almost said I wish I would have known about this when I was a swimmer. But it's like I'm not breathing through my nose underwater.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

Literally, I almost just gemmed to camera. It took a lot out of me not to go.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

But I could have worn it when I was playing field hockey, when I used to run, when I used to do stand-up.

SPEAKER_03 17:14

Oh stand-up comedy. What a stupid, stupid art form.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Okay, but you know how you said that when you run, or like when you're working out, your no your nose collapses and you have a hard time breathing. Get this. Horses. No, they made these for horses. No, they didn't. Breathe through trips. So two vets. First of all, did you know that horses fat horses can't breathe through their mouths. Horses do not breathe through their mouths. They exclusively breathe through their noses. Like it's not a won't, it's not a they can't. It's they can't breathe through their mouths. So two vets notice they put a couple horses on a couple treadmills and they were like, when we turn the speed up, the horses are having a harder time breathing because like it's getting inflamed in their noses. What if we made them some breathe right strips? So they went to CNS and they were like, hey, can you like license this technology to us or whatever? We're gonna make breathe right strips for horses, and they were like, Okay. So they started making them for horses, but it was controversial because they were like, is this a performance enhancer? Shut the fuck up. So I think like they a horse won the derby wearing a breathe right strip or like the horse version of it. Huge. And then, you know, they I should know this because I'm from Kentucky, but then they have those other races. But then on the third one of the triple crown, I guess the Belmont, is that what it is? They like didn't want him to wear it during the Belmont. They were like, you can't like this is like a performance.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:44

Um, but then he broke his leg and so he couldn't compete anyways.

unknown 18:46

Santa.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

Give him a shotgun.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

No. I I forget who I was talking to, but um for the longest time because I thought, whatever, somebody was like, Oh, you're from Kentucky, what happens like you know, when the horse breaks its leg like during a race? I was like, You hate to see it happen, but they do bring out a curtain and they pull out a shotgun and they kill the horse on the track. And I was saying that, and Heather was like, Stop. Hey, stop. She's like, That's not true. And I was like, they do they kill the horse on the track, I think, if it breaks its leg. And Heather was like, Maybe, but I don't think they do it with a shotgun.

SPEAKER_03 19:21

I don't think they kill them on the track. I'm pretty sure they don't.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Okay. Yeah. I thought well, I think, well, you know, I used to do it that blacksmith.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

Back in your previous life.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Yeah. And I think I I could have sworn that his horse was killed on the track.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

That feels like, and I'm not trying to call myself out here, but that feels like a lie that I would make up as a child to one up my friend who was like telling me about how she just rode a horse. You know what I mean? She's like, I ride a horse every week. I take horseback riding lessons, and I'm like, I saw a horse get shot and killed on the racetrack.

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah, you're right. I did get a text back. He was a liar. Yeah. He told me that condom sometimes just disappeared.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

Um, I I have two yeses in the chat from that crazy. Two yeses from former from one uh former soccer player and one former soccer football player. Okay. Both of these people were like, I think I had a deviated septum. Who doesn't? I know. I guess I'm not so sure what that means. I thought you could only get a deviated septum from cocaine. You know what I mean? I thought you or like rec drug use.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

I didn't even know that about cocaine until recently. Yeah. That it literally burns the bones and the skin, so you just have one big hole left.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

It is like absolutely wild that we don't like think about this kind of stuff. Is there another way to do cocaine? I think you just snort it. Oh, you can rub it on your gums, but then it'll then you'll have a receding gum line. Yeah. I think any way to do any type of drug is probably bad. I have a friend who, when I was like talking about the difference between smoking and vaping, she was like, it's the same. She's a doctor. She was like, it's the same. Um it's really the same. But I was using vaping to be like, this is my healthy alternative to smoking. And she was like, No, it's not. Okay. Um, from the athletes, um, it just opens your airways. D1 uh soccer player in college. It opens your airways, more air in equals less tired. Also from a football player. Sometimes currently I put a little VIX in my nostrils before I play to open it up.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

Oh. That sounds really nice.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

And then the other person said, I don't. I huff and puff red faced as God intended because I would like to get laid someday, and I don't think I can do that if I'm wearing a breath rate strip. I'm sorry that I had to dispose of my breath rate.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

No, that's okay. I was breathing too right. I know, I'm gonna keep on. Well, again, like I said, I was like best night of my life. I took a little sleep edible, I put this on, and I was like flying high, woke up, blood. Blood.

SPEAKER_03 21:51

Just blood all over.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

Yeah, I'm breathing too good. No, when I say nosebleed, I just mean like there was like blood, like a little bit of blood. I've never had like a nosebleed.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

Have you? I have um. Um, and you know, uh, they usually come from stress for me. I'll show you some pictures once me and my sister got in a really bad fight and I had a nosebleed that I was like shoving tampons up in my nose. Not like a physical fight, like emotional fight. Okay. And you can have a nosebleed from stress. I get nosebleeds from stress pr pretty much only. Um, unless it's like a really, really, really dry out. Sometimes I'll get them from wintery dryness, but for the most part, I only get them from stress.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

I've never had one. I think if I had one, I would faint. Yeah. Like it seems r that seems really scary to me. Heather's had them. Yeah. Um, excuse me.

unknown 22:36

Most people have had them.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

I know. I think well, I wish it's excuse me. Because we had this conversation where I was like, I think it's crazy that people just casually have nosebleeds. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

Like kids and teens. Like it's like a thing that just happens growing up. I do think like I I don't remember getting a lot of them growing up, but now I'm getting them in spades. Also, it could be because like as I've gotten older now I smoke. You know what I mean? I didn't smoke as a kid. Maybe that's helping the drying.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

Oh, interesting. And you're smoking through your nose, the cigarettes?

SPEAKER_03 23:05

I put one cigarette in each nostril and then I light them and I go.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

That actually sounds really cool. And then you blow smoke rings out of your mouth. And then I go, I've never smoked a cigarette to brag.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

I've had some cigarettes. Mostly now I'm smoking weed. Um, but I I do use my nose for that process. Like if I'm smoking like this, I will like breathe smoke in through my nose. Oh. Wait, really? Yeah. Like if I if I take like a hit of weed and I have the smoke in my mouth, I'll blow it up into my nose.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah. Does it have a different effect? Well, you get the noseblees.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Yeah, get horrible nosebleeds. You should put a breathe right strip in and do it. I lose a lot of blood. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Actually, I do wonder what it would be like to have a breathe right strip on and do cocaine. Like, I wonder how that would feel like. Oh my God. Probably pretty crazy. It would go right into your eyeballs.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Yeah. Go into your eyeballs. Oh my God. Ugh.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Do you have anything else that you don't have to say about breathing right? Or I wanted to get a nose job for so long. And then when my sister was like 14, she was like, if you get a nose job, then we won't all have the same nose. I was like, Oh. So then I didn't do it. I'm shocked that you wanted to get a nose job. I just kind of wanted it to be a little more even. It's a little uneven. It's like a little crooked.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Well, it's deviated septum.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Is it?

SPEAKER_02 24:19

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 24:19

I thought it was just the nose. And also, like, this is crazy, but my best friend used to do this growing up. This all right here is all cartilage. Oh, I hate that. It does, it there's no bone in there. Yeah. But I don't like that at all. Yeah. That's what sharks are. Oh, really? Yeah. I think. Yeah, my friend still will like when she's drunk, we we've been best friends forever. She'll just kind of like pinch it and like this and just like move it around and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Well, I think they say that getting your um septum pierced doesn't hurt at all.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Oh, well, I don't want that because um, and I'm so sorry to say this to you. Um, I don't like the way that that smells on other people all the time. Have you ever kissed someone with a septum ring? Sometimes you're like smells a little bit like hot dogs. Do you know what I mean by that? No. Like the way that sometimes like uh a little kid's hands will smell like cheese, where you're like is that sort of s megma vibe that's coming.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Well, that happens in earrings.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Yeah, or like I used to I had a nose ring for a long time and I got it right before I went to Bonaroo. Perfect idea. Yeah. And then you know those like little bubbles that would form? Yeah. Yeah. So like I feel like maybe it's a little bit of that. I don't know. But it's so close when you're kissing that it's like I can vividly smell it. And it's only happened to me a couple of times. That makes me sick. Yeah. Oh my god. Like the way that someone with like a really deep infected belly button would smell. So I'll go. Okay, Joe. So it was great. Hey now. Thank you so much for having me. I had my belly button pierced. Did you? I did. Still isn't closed.

unknown 25:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

I don't know. That is so surprising to me that you got your belly button pierced.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Shocking. And I used to have like little like were you drunk, or like what happened? No, I just was a different person.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

I just had a di uh personality transplant.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

I used to hang like Budweiser crowns. Like, I used to get like, you know, okay, when you would go on spring break and you'd go to like a gift shop where you're like, this is like trash.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

That's like that was my style.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

Like I would like put like all those belly button rings in. I really like am wishing now that that kind of was your topic because I really wanna not on the pod, um, post pod. I'm gonna need to see some photos of that. Yeah. I am having such a hard time picturing you doing anything trashy. In fact, when I think of you as a child, I picture you in a twilight sweatshirt.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

You know?

SPEAKER_02 26:39

There was, I went through phases. I was really into like prod adds and creaks and bugs. Cute. And then all of a sudden, it was I worked at a tanning bed, you know. And then I got laid off from that tanning bed.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

Yeah, they were like, you just there's something about you. You don't seem like you have what it takes to be a sun tan.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

I was afraid of the beds. Yeah. People would come in and they'd be like, what should I do? I'm like, you shouldn't be here. You gotta go. You gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

You should leave. I'm reading about what these do to your skin. It is not good. Let me tell you, it's not good.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Um, okay, let's talk about your topic. I'm so glad when you mentioned this because I love this topic.

SPEAKER_03 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

And it was such a fun excuse to get back into this topic.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Yeah, I wish uh that I ever needed a reason to get back in, but I'm always in. You know what I mean? It is um when I came on the show the first time, we talked about Sex in the City. Um, and I do think that Sex in the City is like my whole personality, but it's the part of my personality that's like the annoying carry side. This is like my personality like as like an adult. Like when I finally like became, even though the show came out like 15 years ago, but when I like became a grown-up, I remember watching this show and being like, oh, yeah, this is the type of shit that I like.

SPEAKER_02 28:07

This is such formative comedy.

SPEAKER_03 28:09

It is, and it really like it inspires a lot of the comedy that I like now. And I was thinking about this before I came over. The reason I started watching this show was because I wanted to impress a girl who now is like my best friend and someone that I write with creatively.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

So it worked.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Not only did it work, but it like uh watching the show, and like we we were um very young and we were gay. So we were like tumultuously like on again, off again. And um I remember like watching the show and being like, this show is good enough for me to just like squash all this drama with this person and be like, I want to talk about this show. Happy endings.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

It's such a good show. It's so good. When did wait so did you watch it then in its original like run?

SPEAKER_03 28:57

When did you start watching it? I didn't watch it while it was airing. I watched all of it um after it was already canceled. I watched it the first time and then loved it, thought it was so good, and then have come back to it so much over the years in between watching other stuff, and it just like holds up in a way that most shows don't. And it's so funny still. It's so funny. It's unbelievable still.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

What do you think makes it different and able to hold up where others don't?

SPEAKER_03 29:25

Okay, so I feel like for me, the the difference with happy endings is there's a bunch, but the first is like the chemistry is very right. It's like it's crazy good. I it's almost weird, and I listened to the Happy Endings podcast when it came out um about like how each of them were cast, and um Damon was first. So Damon Wains was like the first one on, which I do feel like is he's such a perfect actor and such a good comedic actor that it would be you'd be hard pressed to find people that he like can't have chemistry with.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

But the casting of Eliza, who plays Jane. Jane and Brad as a couple, I love their chemistry. And they like comment, they break the fourth wall a lot with it. And they're like, You guys are not like other couples I see on TV. You know what I mean? Like, I love their chemistry, I love them as a couple, I love Max. Um, I even love Dave, to be honest. Like, I do too. I love Dave.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

I took a note because I was like, I when I was originally thinking, I was like, I don't really care much about Dave. And then on my recent rewatch, I was like, I kind of love Dave.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

And I feel like I connect more with him as an adult.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Yeah. Yes, because like when you're early 20s, you're like, I'm very cool. Like there's no one who's cooler than me.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

And he's just kind of like a nothing.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

And he's just kind of like a an uncool guy. And then as you get older, you're like, oh no, like actually all of us are pretty deeply uncool. And like it's fun to see the ways in which like Dave is consistently like the way that he like drinks sangria. Yeah. And like he's trying new things, he takes on his Navajo identity.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

That is one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_03 31:00

I think he he's brilliant. Like Zachary Knighton is his name, and he's brilliant. He's so funny in it. Um, the other thing that I feel like sets it apart, uh God, I'm going so fast, is like so. David Cass created, in my opinion, a really good environment for talent to grow and mature. All of the people who have like written on that show, anyone who has worked as a showrunner on that show, have since gone on to run their own writers' rooms. Oh, really? All of them. Every single writer. You can go through the Wikipedia, every single writer has gone on to be a showrunner. Joe and Anthony Russo, this is their first foray into TV, I'm pretty sure. Happy endings. They they have gone on to do Marvel and Star Wars. Oh my gosh. Like Prentice Penny uh went on to do Insecure.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

I wonder how he found all these people.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

And they, this is all kind of like their first jobs. Like, I think he did have a couple of people in the room with him who were a little bit more seasoned, like how you always should. But everyone from this show, from like a creator standpoint, went on to do their own projects. Like Brooklyn 99 has people from Happy Ending. You know what I mean? Like they went everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

That makes me happy to like know that you could because as you know, I'm pivoting my entire career. But it's nice to know that you can the, you know, you could start it's nice to hear stories about people starting late and succeeding.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

Yeah. And like they um, you know, like that show was kind of a flop. Like in in the time, they were like constantly worried about being canceled. They uh eventually did get canceled. They got bumped during their run. They were supposed to be earlier in the night, and then they got bumped to a later slot for, I don't know, some show, maybe New Girl, but Fear Factor. Fear Factor, um, Joe Rogan's Fear Factor. Um, but they like through all of that noise, they still made a really good show. And I feel like they made a show that's still really fun and light. And I think obviously the main thing about the show for me is Casey Wilson. And she's like the ultimate for me. Watching that show, the reason that it's like my personality is like watching Casey as Penny, I feel like has dictated so much about who I am as a grown-up.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

It makes so much sense because I didn't know, because we've talked about how much we love Danielle and Casey. Yes. And I didn't like we didn't really know that about each other until it kind of came out. And I was like, oh, you're like Casey's my number one. And now I'm like, that makes so much sense to me.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Casey Rose Wilson, she is like to me, like a force to be reckoned with. Like, she is so, not only is she so funny and like so talented, so present in all of these scenes, but like no one ever reads a line on this show, especially in seasons two and three, where it feels like they're reading it for the first time. Everything has like mustard on it. Do you know that expression? No, but okay. People use it about Maya Rudolph. It's literally like when you put kind of like your own flair or like stank on something. I think every single line on Happy Endings has mustard on it.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

Does that make sense? It does. Cause like I'm constantly shocked by the way they say things. And like I wrote I think one line that I wrote down, like um Brad's character is one of my favorite lines that Penny says, which we can get you, but then the way that Brad responds and says, sorry for your loss, is like sorry for your loss. I can hear it in a minute. Yes, it's just it's so interesting.

SPEAKER_03 34:19

I feel like what happens a lot with TV shows um when people really like them is they like to say stuff like, and you know that was improvised. And you know, that was improvised. And what I what I want to say about like improv in general is like all of these lines were likely written, but I do think that like each take they were doing something completely completely different. Yeah. And I think that speaks again to like the creative energy on set and like the safety that I feel like David Cass must have provided for people to create such good work. And none of them knew each other, you know what I mean? Like none of these people had worked together. I want to talk about Casey before we talk about anything else. Okay. Because I think from episode one, when we meet Penny, when Casey has a line, like she the way everything that she says to me is quotable, tattooable, lower back tattoo. Like the in the first episode, she says this line in a flashback where she's having a drink with Alex and um with Alex and Jane, and she says, My disgustingly fat manicurist is literally trying to kill me. And then she takes like a deep breath like that while she takes a sip of her Cosmo. Uh that is like to me the perfect example of Casey Wilson. Like the the breath in between the end of the line that she delivers perfectly and taking a sip of the drink is so funny to me. I think about it all the time.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

I don't know that specific moment, but I am like constantly blown away by it. Doesn't feel like a character. It like feels like I'm watching it feels like this was like written about her. I think so.

SPEAKER_03 36:09

Yeah I feel like so. She talks about that a little bit. Um, that David Caff also basically used her and uh a couple of Casey's friends to build Penny. Like the most notable one that I'm thinking of is uh in the Cocktails and Dreams episode, where she says, Yeah, David, I took a whores bath. I used some dryer sheets on my pits and splashed some water on my hush. The phrase splash some water on my hush was a thing that another woman in her life had said. And they took that and put it in the show. And that to me is why it's so iconic. And also I think why I like it so much is like there is a period of your life when you, especially like as a young woman, are are really trying to be cool. You just like are like, it doesn't matter what else people perceive of me. What matters the most is that people think that I'm cool. And Penny is such a good reminder that, like, no, that doesn't matter at all. And the more you try to grab onto that, like, the more you'll flail. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 37:11

In the funniest way.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

Yeah. Also, um, never forget my kickball shoes make me look like a lesbian. That's amazing. When she, in the episode where they're doing um Alex's store, she's selling baby teeth. Oh my god, yeah. Put me to bed or I pooped.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Please, like, I love her so much. My favorite line that she says when she's talking about um like being lucky or something, and she says, A girl I went to camp with Pete all over herself on a ropes course in front of everyone, and then last year she was killed in a murder suicide at the state fair.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

And that's when Brad goes, sorry for your love.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Yes. It's like these lines, like when I watch it, this is because I was kind of saying, like, lately, stand up to me has felt like dark gray walking through cement. This specific vibe is like so loose, so playful, so outrageous, so silly.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

And then it's unapologetic. She's never like, sorry, I'm such a mess, or sorry, I'm so weird. She's just like, this is who I am, and I have friends. It's so funny and it's so yes. She's like, she never has to, and I hate to compare because obviously, like, they were compared a lot when they first came out, but unlike Jess in New Girl, which I do love New Girl, she never has to qualify why she is the way that she is. Like Jess from New Girl, you're constantly, she's like talking about how she's from Portland and that's why she's weird, or like she's a teacher who got really into knitting, and that's why she's, you know, like whatever. Penny, you don't have to do that with. And she never, you never learn that like a backstory about Penny, and that's this is why she's so like silly and ditzy. It's like, no, dumb, clumsy. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

A clumsy, stupid, clumsy bitch. Stupid, clumsy bitch. I know I was trying to think because I know that they are compared a lot, and I was like, but they feel so different. They're very different. I think it's just the pace of happy endings is so much quicker. And also it's more um, I don't know if this is the right term, but like episodic, like you don't you don't have to like worry about carrying through these like huge storylines. Like no. At one of my favorite things is it's in the when Penny's birthday curse or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

My favorite episode, of course.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

And then the end of it. Yeah, because that's the one you told me to watch. And then at the end of it, when they're literally cursed by like a witch. Yeah. So funny, and then we never hear about it again. It never happens. Yeah. That I just what a fun way to just play.

SPEAKER_03 39:18

And that's like that's exactly what I like about it still, is like you will find a lot of that play in a lot of other shows, right? Like, but in happy endings, they completely like jump the shark and they don't care. Also, the even though there isn't like a linear storytelling, they do a lot of like homages to their own show. So, like, the reason I love Party of Six so much, it's the best episode. It's such a good episode. I'm so glad you recommended it. I like it a lot because um, number one, like, this is the reason why I like Happy Ending so much, and I think it inspired a lot of my other TV liking. It's a group scene the whole time. So the whole time they're all together. There's no ABC, it's one plot the whole time. Yeah, that's a great point. They go through the whole episode together, and it's a um like a mirror of the pilot. So the pilot episode. Oh, I didn't realize that. Or maybe it's the second episode. No, I think it's the pilot. Yeah, it is. Um, in the pilot episode, Dave and Alex break up at the altar, and then Alex goes on vacation with the roller skater. Later in that episode, it's Penny's birthday, and Dave brings the waitress who you see in Party of Six to as a date, right? They're at the same restaurant, they have almost the same conversation, but then in party of six, it goes in the reverse order. So weird. And in that episode is one of my favorite Dave lines that took me 70,000 years to get if Degrassi's on the field, play ball. Sorry about the message. Sorry, proud of the word play, not the message. He says, if Degrassi's on the field, the grass is on the field, play ball. He's saying if there's pubes on the girl. I it took me years of watching this show to even click. I was like, oh my god, that's so fucking smart.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

Yeah. The lot it's it almost like breaks my brain to think about how you would even begin to write this show.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

I literally, yes, I've I was thinking that like about the Mandana in oh wait, so this is the other part. So every season ends with a wedding. Season one, oh, I didn't realize that they all end with weddings. Okay. I feel like it's a perfect example of that because I'm always like, what happened first? Did you decide that he was gonna be in a cover band? Or did you come up with Mandana and then work backwards? Yeah, I'm always like wondering that about this show specifically. And if I can like toot their horn even one more time, you will find a lot of very like dense joke shows from this time. They're the two that I pull the most. But both of those shows, I love those shows, would die for them. Both of those shows have weird transphobic jokes or storylines. Happy Endings has a trans joke, but it is not transphobic. They do a reference to a trans man, and then Penny says, What's he up to? as if to say she wants to date him. It's the only show from that time that I feel like uses like gender and like transness in a way that isn't punching down. Yeah, and I've obviously watched the show about 65 times. Um, so I'm really paying attention to it. But yeah, it's it is like that, I feel like across the board. No one is the butt of the joke who doesn't deserve to be. Like Dave's the butt of the joke with all the Navajo stuff, fucking obviously. Right. Like Max is the butt of the joke about like being kind of chubby every once in a while, which I feel like is not. I feel like the That's the only one that you're like, well, he's not really chubby. He's just like not a stick.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

How did you feel though about like, I mean, obviously there's some stuff in there that like doesn't age perfectly. Um the way that Adam Pally played a gay man.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

At the time, legit revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah, legit revolutionary. And I um in college put on my professor hat. Okay. In college, my thesis uh was called Media Matters, and it was all about like LGBT representation, media, and I talk about Pally. Oh really? Okay, so you liked yeah. I did like it. And I also I I resent the idea wholly that um only gay people have the capacity to play gay people because it implies also that gay people can't play straight people. I think when you talk about like gender and stuff, I feel like that's different. I don't believe that only gay men should play gay roles, and I also do think that Pally absolutely fucking demolished that part. And I think like the show's like lightness, and I have no reason to think this other than just my own head, but I do feel like a lot of the show's like playfulness comes from him. Like he, from what I hear, he was um, especially in his 20s like a real force to be reckoned with. He um they talked about on the show how he and one of the writers uh pulled a prank on David Cass for four months. They were getting packages delivered to him under a different guy's name. And it came to be that Pally and this guy had set up a fake office for this guy and had like a fake name for a man who didn't work there. And one day they asked David to go meet with him and he opened the door and it was just filled with a bunch of packages.

unknown 44:30

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_03 44:31

And like that kind of goofy shit. And like he, when he was interviewed when they first started the show, he was like really goofy and he uh would answer other people's questions. Like he would be like, Damon, how does it feel to like be you know the only black cast member on the show? And he would be like, Well, for me, I think for Damon, it feels you know, like just like such a real shit stir, and like I feel like she is a chaos demon.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

He is and I love him.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

I wonder if I do feel like that must have had an effect on the show. I think the other part of why it feels so light to me is I I know it's everybody's like kind of first project, like even Damon. Like I feel like it was the first real big show that he had. David Caspett's his first show, with the exception of like Alex, who was on 24. And I want to say like Dave also had done some stuff before, but for the rest of them, it was kind of their first thing. So yeah, that's I feel like why it's the energy of it really translates through the screen because sometimes you watch really funny shows and you're like, why is this not funny to me?

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Right. It's such bright, funny energy, and it's so silly. And the chemistry is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

Okay, this is my last one. I'm not gonna ever stop talking about Casey, but the one that that I think about all the time where her and Alex go on a cleanse and Paul Sheer guest stars on that one.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Oh my god. He's on another one where he's like in a robe and they It's that one. Oh, is it that one?

SPEAKER_03 45:50

Okay, it's that one. They go on a cleanse, um, and then Alex gets really into it, and Penny almost kills herself. She's like, She's crying, she's in Pajoveralls. These aren't jeans, these are Pajoveralls. Oh my god. And then the the one that I say to my friends still, whenever I'm like in a space, is when she goes out onto the balcony at Jane's house, she goes and steps on the ledge. Oh, yeah, and Jane goes, Yeah, Ken. And she goes, just getting a breath afresh. Yeah. That's another one from one of her friends, I think. Breath of Fresh is, I think, another woman that she knows who says that. That's so good. Yeah, I think maybe that's like why I like it so much. It does feel like, unlike a lot of characters that men write about women, or sometimes even women write about women, Casey's penny feels a little bit like a love letter to all of the women that she knows.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

Totally. And it's like also a love letter to herself. Yes. Yeah. It's it's not, it, it does, it's not like tropey or punching, like making fun of women for the things that they do. It's it's like making it so much fun to watch.

SPEAKER_03 46:52

It is. And the one where she like walks into the stop sign and then eats like a donut off the ground. That's it. I that literally happened to a friend of mine. You know what I mean? Like, I know, I know someone who walked into a stop sign when she was talking to someone else.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

If I were to play a character on TV, I would want to play a mix of Penny and Dave. Because I love how Dave will just like it's it's almost reminds me of Grace a little bit, Grace Boyce. Yes. Like she'll like walk into a room and it's like, what? Like, what are you guys laughing at? It's just like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

It's just you. He's yeah, also the um the only real reason I wanted you to watch the lost table read. Oh, and I didn't is um that's totally fine. In so obviously they cancel happy ending, spoiler alert, they cancel it, um, because not enough people were watching it. But obviously, it's grown in mega fan base since they had a panel maybe 10 years ago at like the Paley Center.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

Joan, come on. Yeah, she's bringing us something. Okay, come on. What do you have? She brought us probably a golf club. Okay, come on.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

In the Lost Table read, they make Dave write a musical that is Hamilton because he doesn't know about Linman Well Miranda yet.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

Oh my see that. And that is very like I very much identify with Dave. Yes. It's like I'm gonna try this thing, and it's like, girl, you are so out of touch.

SPEAKER_03 48:06

You know what I mean? I identify with Dave when he gets his car stolen on Thanksgiving. Helping a string. Oh my god. Pangea. Pangea grill. I think feel like honestly, is so smart. All of them, the silly gets cranked up.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

And Alex is a slow Alex, like at first, it's just like, oh, her funny thing is she just likes to eat a lot and she's hot. But like, then she they we do need she gets dumb, which I do think helps.

unknown 48:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:33

She gets really dumb. Um, and I really like all episodes where Alex is at the forefront. But I the Mary Prankster episode where you where she does the um unusual suspects thing, and at the end she like doesn't have a limp and she's like tricked all of them. Do you remember that? No. There's an episode uh called the Mary Prankster. It's in season three where Max is pranking all of his friends because they prank him and they make him think he won the lottery. So then he goes and pranks everybody. Alex, in an attempt to like not get pranked, like starts reacting really poorly, and then um you find out at the end that she was like one step ahead of Max the whole time. Okay. Uh, and I love that episode because I do feel like she ends the episode by saying, I'm not as dumb as I am, which is iconic.

SPEAKER_02 49:21

It's an incredible line.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

It's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

Another favorite line, sorry, in Code Wars when Brad has all those nicknames for Vanessa and he says Vanessa Vanasturbate. So good.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

Vanesticle.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

What? Okay, so you know how we did like with sex in the city? Like who's character, like who's who's who? Who do you think um you are of? I mean, I already know the answer to that. Who do you think you are?

SPEAKER_03 49:44

I'll do my whole chart. So I'll do three. Um, Penny, son. I know this is gonna sound a little cuckoo loo, but I would say Max rising, no, Derek rising, Jane Moon. Derek rising. Derek rising. When she brings Derek to the wedding and he slides down the banister and goes, wee! Ha ha ha hi! What about you? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

I think I'm I don't think I'm like interesting enough to be a penny, so I feel like Dave is my, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Yeah, I feel like you could for sure have Penny in there, but I also do see some Jane in there for sure. Oh, yeah, I forgot about yeah. Because she has like sincere OCD. Yes, yes, yes. I resonate with the OCD that Jane has, and also that she's a Capricorn who changed her birthday. She's a Christmas I got and she changed her birthday to the summer to match her sunny disposition. That's so fucking funny.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

I feel the least like Max. Um I see that for you. Just because he's the shower is so disgusting. Yeah, yeah. Do what do you think? You think I'm Dave or Jane?

SPEAKER_03 50:50

You could be a Dave. You could be a Dave with like a penny rising and also like a Jane moon. Okay, great. I'll go with that. Yeah, I feel like that's a good one for you. And Dave, as we all know, rules. Um, it's just a bummer that his number one thing is that he was left at the altar. So it's tough for me to give that to you. Right.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

I mean, I know, I know. But that's you know what? I'm kind of a bummer.

SPEAKER_03 51:11

Also, one of the best lines that Adam Pally ever delivers is Jane, there's no food in your purse. Just a bunch of newspaper clippings from when you used to figure ski. Yes. What the hell is wrong with you? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

You were so good. I love those. Like, I want to write a show with those just random at the end of the street.

SPEAKER_03 51:28

It's my favorite fucking thing. And it and it never comes up again. No. It never comes up again. She says that's where she's at the bar. Yeah. Santa Biosa stole all my moves. Um, okay, well, is there anything else you want to say about happy endings? I don't think so. I feel like if you haven't watched it, it's on Hulu. I think the only other thing that I wanted to say is um I really like that, especially in season three, you can see that they're knowing they're about to get canceled and they really start breaking the fourth wall. Um, at one point, Penny says, in reference to a different episode, she says, nobody brought a mini pig to a car dealership to explain something about gender roles. But yeah, um, everyone watch it. It's amazing. Um, everyone uh also watch everything that Casey Wilson has ever done. Ever done. She's amazing. Yeah, she's also Black Monday. If you haven't watched Black Monday. So good. Really good. That's one of my faves. It's really funny. And I love Andrew Rannels on that. He's so good. Um, thanks so much for coming on. Thanks for having me back. Sorry that my breath rate trip didn't last the whole episode. No, that's okay. I'm so glad I have mine in. Good night. Goodbyes within.

SPEAKER_02 52:27

I will.

SPEAKER_03 52:27

Just so I'm a little breezier.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

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