Motion Sickness and Natural Fibers

Joanna reveals that camels are the ships of the desert. Heather clears up rumors about her cicada feet. Allie explains why natural fabrics are better for lizard people such as herself. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

And then get this. Oh, this isn't right. It says in 1998, Napoleon. Okay. A different one. Right. No, but it's it's Napoleon, but 1998 is not right. But um, so he tried to create a camel core in Egypt where it's like we're all gonna fight on camels. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

I like this one thing, so I made it my whole thing. Now no one wants to talk to me at parties. Please listen to my spiel, because I made it my whole deal. I made it my whole personality. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Hey everyone, welcome back to my whole personality. This episode is with my friends Heather and Allie. Um, you've probably, you've definitely heard me talk about them before on the podcast. Heather is my roommate. And so unfortunately, she's brought up, uh, she's been brought up a couple times in unfavorable light. So technically, this is Allie's episode, but Heather, we did want to have her come on just to clear her name and clear up any rumors that I'd started about her, especially because I think the episode that I did before this one, um, I mentioned that her feet were like cicada husks. And so she really felt the urge to the need to come on and and and clear her name. And then Allie, you've definitely heard me talk about before on the podcast. I've talked about how her hands are really cold, how she has no circulation in her hands, and so she'd actually be a perfect pastry chef. Because in order to be a pastry chef, you can't have hot hands. Like I have a friend whose hands were too hot to be a pastry chef. She had to totally change her dream. But Allie could be a could be a great pastry chef because her fingers are like cold little bones. And so she could really work that dough. So what's interesting is that um, you know, we're talking about Allie's cold hands, but they are kind of what led her to discover the topic that she's gonna talk about on this episode. So I'm gonna talk about motion sickness because that is a huge part of my personality. Um, it's a big problem. And Allie's gonna talk about natural fibers and natural fabrics because as she's been dealing with these cold Chicago winters, she has realized that she needs to wear things that do a much better job of regulating her body temperature. And so that led her to discover like natural fabrics like cotton, cashmere, silk, stuff like that, which we talk about um in this episode. Also, I did want to point out that the end of the episode, for some reason, it sounds like we're underwater. I don't know why. I did my best to fix it. And that's it. So I hope you all enjoy this episode, and I'll see you in a couple weeks. So joining me on the podcast, which is actually very sweet because these were the first ever podcast guests I had, plus Dana and Keith chiming in from the couch. But this is Allie and Heather.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Hello. Hi, yeah. I'm Allie.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Thank you for doing that.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

You're welcome. And I'm Heather.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Perfect. Um, and they were on my first ever one that will never be released because it was so bad. Never see the light of day. Never see the light of day, where I tried to tell them about King Richard III and it and it didn't go well.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Don't know anything about him. Yeah, still can't tell you anything.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

They didn't learn a single. I actually forgot to talk about him. I was just like doing all of those. Like, well, first you need to know about if you're gonna know about King Richard, you need to know about the War of the Roses. If you need to know about the War of the Roses, I need to do a little more research.

SPEAKER_04 3:39

That is ringing a bell.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Yeah, okay, and I didn't mean to trigger us again, but um, okay, so before we started, I did want to just um take a minute to issue an apology to Heather.

unknown 3:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Heather and Evan are brought up a lot on this podcast. Not usually in a good light. Um, Heather, I want to apologize for all the things I've said about you. I said that your feet looked like cicada husks. And I I know I'm doing damage again by bringing these things back up. Oh, it's just like I actually went through the podcast and searched Heather to see the things that I'd said about you.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

That's interesting because I did as well. Okay, so what's on your list? Let me start with the latest intro about baby feet. 51,000 reviews on Amazon.com. 8,000 purchased in the last month. I am not the only one using this product. You're not, I'll give you that. Slow walking. I'm a lady of leisure. I forgot that I brought that out. If I want a promenade and take in the sights, let a girl live. Okay. My whole personality is not dancing with the stars.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

I forgot that I said I didn't know anybody who watched Dancing with the Stars until you and I love it now.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

I thought you'd say that. Wow. On the finale of last season, 72 million votes. Okay. Sounds like you know a lot about dancing with the stars. I researched after searching my name because I needed to put facts next to these things. Okay. So those are a few. Yeah. Was that the Robert Irwin season? I feel like that got a lot of people. That and like Dylan Efron and the Alex girl that's in a fight with another Alex. I don't know. Who I didn't know. I only know the Irwin. Yeah. He was he and Dylan were. It was a really good season.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

And Whitney. Which I've recently realized it's your whole personality. No, I'm attracted to a longer tooth. So I like Whitney's teeth. Teeth a lot. Okay. And I've noticed that she has longer canines.

SPEAKER_04 5:54

Oh, like specifically like this point too.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

And I like that on people. I think that Willem Defoe has that as well. That's interesting because aren't you Tim Jacob? Yeah, I know. So it's I'm a bucket of contradictions. Yeah. Um, okay, so because I said some horrible things about you, I actually wanted to say some really nice things about you, real quick, okay?

unknown 6:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

So Heather has been known for her cicada feet. I would like to say she has beautiful doll-sized wrists. Can confirm. Okay. Yep. She's one fall away from losing both of her hands, popping right off.

SPEAKER_05 6:31

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

You can do the splits. You can snowboard. Well, that's gracious. You have big lips, which is cool. Paid a lot of money for them. So I will never forget when Allie looked at me and she said, I think you're like, I mean, we can cut this if you want. You're like, you know what I'm gonna say. You're like, I don't know. I feel like like lips are getting thinner. Like I've never been open to it before, but I think I would get lip filler. And I looked at you and I thought, how dare you? What do you think of me? Um Heather's one of the most glamorous people I know. Oh, you're very glamorous. You're like a real lady lady. Thank you. It goes with the lady of leisure. That's true. My promenades. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You've had a nosebleed before, which I haven't. Me either.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

You either. I've never had one. Do you think it's good that people have it?

SPEAKER_04 7:17

Very common. I think it's fascinating. I agree. Yeah. I'm always like is this the time is this happening?

SPEAKER_02 7:25

Yeah. You've seen DJ Poly D twice in person, once on accident.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

I think three. I think one of them two performance-wise uh once on the street. On the beach. On the beach. Thank you. Right. I think that's cool. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Um, and one time a doctor told you that your eyes were dead.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

And not just any doctor, an optometrist, eye doctor, somebody who knew what they were talking about. And that's how I get hit on in bars.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

And didn't you tell someone you were a ghost once in a bar?

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

I asked if he was a ghost. Okay. Oh yes, yes, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

So for those fair because we were in New Orleans. And he could have easily been a ghost. He was by himself and he was talking about his parents in an almost old-timey way. And so I said, they talk about how they died of cholera. He said he was on a trip with them. And I was like, are they here with us now?

SPEAKER_02 8:17

So I just want everybody to know that this is who I live with and this is what I'm talking about when I talk about Heather, why I love Heather. She's got a lot to her. Thank you. I think the coolest thing is you can do the splits, um, which I like a lot. Allie, yeah. You're great as well. It's fine.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

You don't you don't know me anything? I didn't write anything. It's fine. You don't know me anymore. No, I um you've only been called out for your r renoids.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're honouse. Yeah. We'll have you back on. We'll have you on to talk about sharks with you, Emily and Dana. Yeah. Okay. Because um we have a lot of talk, we have a lot of um beef about that. They need to be represented. That's fair. True. Okay, so the things that we're gonna talk about today, you've come to the table with something that I'm actually really excited to learn about and talk to you about. Yeah. But first we're gonna talk about something that I'm bringing to the table, which is a big part of my personality and really dictates how I show up on vacations, especially because I vacation with you all a lot. And that is motion sickness. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

We haven't all been on a boat together in a decade. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Do you all ever experience motion sickness?

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Yeah. No. Really? You've never like I think like maybe once or twice, but no. Not like in a I do. Like I can't read.

SPEAKER_04 9:32

But it's very space specific. Like I could read on a plane or like a train, but I cannot read in a car for some reason. Um, but then if I just like stop, then it just like goes away.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

It does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:47

Like pretty instantly.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

That's nice. I feel like mine takes a minute to like flush through my even like when we went kayaking at camp, yeah. I feel like I had to lay down for the rest of the day because I still felt like I was in that kayak.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

That stinks.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

You never get emotion sick. I like that. That makes sense because you're a dancer. And like whenever we would do those, like maybe you're trained.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

I'm trained. You just spin and spot. I can't. Like whenever we would do those dance workouts, I would have to skip the spins, the turnarounds, because they make me sick.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Yeah, you spot and then you're, you know, hitting a specific location. Yeah. So it helps you not get dizzy.

SPEAKER_04 10:23

I don't like in the Bruno Mars Pilates class I've been taking.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

We don't, we need to get her.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

Which I would like to clarify that I didn't know it was a Bruno Mars Pilates class. Um, but there's a move where she's like, okay, you know, like it's just kind of a relaxing like twist, but she's like, look all the way around the room. And I'm like, who can do this?

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Because I get sick. So we're more alike that different. Yeah. Heather remains just unbreakable. Not true. Other things break me, just not motion. Right. Yeah. I just, yeah, what I wouldn't give. And so you guys are going, you guys are taking sailing lessons coming up, right? We are. That's very cool. I could all simply nod to you from the shore.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

Yeah.

unknown 11:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:05

Yeah. I've spent a lot of time on sailboats in my youth. And I know like, I don't know. I know the feeling like I would get off a boat and then I would like sit down for lunch at camp. It was at camp and was not like it wasn't rich boating. Um it was a pile of sticks tied together. Boats that had been donated. So we had a lot of patching to do, things like that. But yeah, I would like get off the boat for lunch and sit down and like still feel like I was on the water, but it didn't make me sick and it was kind of fun. But is that motion sick? Because I mean I think it never made me like ill. I think like sick is that's the piece of the puzzle. Like it never made me like feel sick.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Because I felt that the residual, yeah. That's what like if you're on a dock and like yeah, after you get off the dock and it like is still like a wave feeling.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yes. Yeah. Do you feel that way when you stand next to elevators?

SPEAKER_01 11:56

No.

SPEAKER_03 11:57

No.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Ideal. I think somebody else is too on our group. It's probably Rosie because she is the uh oh, here I go again. Medical hip is the vestibular migraines. When the vestibular, I'll tell you guys, yeah, is very um involved in the in the in the motion sickness.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

It is genetic, which makes sense because do you guys remember when my mom had to be wheeled out of Harry Potter world in a wheelchair?

SPEAKER_04 12:17

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Yeah. Does your sister get motion sick? No. So the whole trip was basically like me and my mom watching her go on all our concerts.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

That reminds me, I feel like growing up, because we were so close to Six Flags, that we would go all the time with like there was one guy in our class whose parents were like super loaded. And so every birthday they would pay for like 50 kids to go to Six Flags, and they would hire these like limos to drive us out. Like it was a whole thing. But like every year there was like this one kid who was so sweet. I won't say his name. But he like was so he could not like even like watch roller coasters, and so I just have very vivid memories of him like holding everyone's coats and like women's like per like our purses and bags, and he was just like waving us, like he never complained about it. That's sweet, it's really sweet.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Now, I'll say it, I haven't been on a roller coaster. The last time I remember going was like, I don't know, maybe freshman or sophomore year of college. So I haven't been on a roller coaster in a long time. So I do I have thought in the past handful of years, like, would I be okay or would it affect me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Because I didn't like them growing up, and then I did like them eventually, but I liked them when I was little, but now I've seen too much and I know too much, and the risk is not worth the reward. Excuse me. You've seen that novella guy and get hit by a burn. Fabio.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

I didn't have to do an episode on just that specific moment of his life.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

I think I just don't like the idea of being like jerked around more than anything else. It's not for me. It's not for me at all.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Um I still think I want to try him again. Because when we went to Arizona, we had so much fun going down the water slide, which I know is totally different, but like less fun. It's like emotion, putting your body in motion in a different way. And it was so fun.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

How are you on that? I was okay. Um, mostly I didn't like the way that my skin stuck to the slide. What do you mean? I was like, that's interesting. You know, when you go down a water slide and like sometimes you hit a sticky spot and you're like, I gotta push, you know. This body's got a lot of weight on it.

SPEAKER_04 14:23

So that doesn't, I'm not getting it. I know what you mean, but I feel like then it's like you learn that one time and then you're like, second time I'm not sticking. That's true. Yeah. But I was picturing like your face.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

So it's like holding face down. Okay, so I'm gonna tell you all a little bit just to like talk about the like motion sickness through history, because I I did I actually did some like research on this one. I did and it was really interesting. So obviously, people have been motion sick forever, but they're like, I found this paper that was going to look into like the most like the earliest documentations of motion sickness, just to like see how they treated it. But what's interesting is seasickness affected a ton of um historical battles. Yeah. Which you never really think about. Like people straight up lost wars because their crew was nauseous. That makes total sense. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Once they were on land or like wars by ship. I don't know. Probably both.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Probably both, because they used to fight a lot at sea. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:20

And then, like we're talking about then if you spend like three weeks on a boat and then you stuff on land, there's uh no chance.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

There's no chance. Yeah, your legs are pool. Yeah, Julius Caesar, notorious seasick. Interesting, and then get this. Oh, this isn't right. It says in 1998, a Napoleon. Oh, okay. It might a different one, right? No, but it's it's Napoleon, but 1998 is not right. But um, so he tried to create a camel core in Egypt where it's like we're all gonna fight on camels. Okay. What did that mean? And he got a little nauseous, but he wasn't. Was it because it made him taller? Honestly, probably he was sitting like right on top of that home. Yeah, his legs. No, there is nothing more about his legs.

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Would have been he doesn't think people are looking at his legs. He thinks that they're all just above. Above. That's true. God, he would have leveled.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:14

He probably built like a contraption like Lord Barquad. Didn't like didn't have any good things where it made it look like his legs were normal.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Like pool noodles for his legs. Yeah. Yeah. His legs, his fake legs were like dragging on the camera. Exactly. Yeah. But he got a little nauseous, but a lot of his soldiers like straight up couldn't handle it. And so that because they called camels the ships of the desert. Okay. And so they like ran into battle, and then his soldiers jumped off and they're like, sorry, we can't do it.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

Whoa. Isn't that crazy? Interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

All right. So here are some cures throughout history for motion sick. We've all heard like you you spot, you look at a spot, doesn't work for me. Probably works for dancers. We've all seen center stage. Um you could do an episode on that. I would love that movie. Yeah. Yeah. People put herbs up their nose. You know, sure. That makes sense. Um, herbal teas, fasting. Some people fast some, they would hide dirt from the hearth under your hair. So you like always had like a piece of the ground with you. They thought that would help. People would pray. Sure. And then people would drink the urine of young boys.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

As you would assume. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:23

Very logical. Yeah. And what um did was there any insight of like what societies did that one?

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Uh, I forget.

SPEAKER_04 17:33

Or when they stopped.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Well, I don't think unfortunately, because that did kind of catch my eye. And so I started Googling like, why did people drink P or medicine? And I think that in recent years search history has searches have been bumping. Like, what's the medicinal properties of urine? I know. But I think I took some notes on that. But basically, there is no real um benefit, but it's not I think you'll be okay. It's not hurting you. It's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:06

I don't think it is. I know I don't think it is. It's not sanitary.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

It's um well, men's oh, I just talked about this with Maureen too on the podcast that's gonna come out before this, but it's the where you get into problems is when it comes when it exits the body, and that's when there's contamination, and that's when it's not sterile.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, sterile is the word.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

But it said if you're like I the article I said was like, or the article I read, it's like if you're under a collapsed building or you're stuck somewhere and you've got to drink something, you can drink pee and you'll be okay. Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Yeah. Okay. Like bear girls. Yeah. Does he do that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's like out in the well. Big time.

SPEAKER_04 18:43

He always drinks his feet. Well, it's a survival show. So it's like he's like not always doing it, but he's like in a pinch, like you know. Yeah, that's all he has in his camel back.

SPEAKER_02 18:52

Instead of water, yeah, is pea.

SPEAKER_04 18:54

Or he's like looking for fresh water. I just like if you're drinking nine times out of ten, there's no fresh water.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

But if you're producing pea, surely you're drinking water. Like, or you're just drinking pea and more pea's coming out from it's just in a pinch, you know.

SPEAKER_04 19:13

It's not long-term, it's not a long-term solution.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

I guess I haven't really watched much bear girls, but I'm interested now. I love bear girls. I want to start watching um alone. My parents watch that. People love that.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

I feel like they're very different vibes.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

So obviously, the biggest oh, I forgot that we had cheese there. That's gonna be an issue. Fitz is joined time. Everybody knows swap me across the face. He would never. That's all I asked. You'd never do that.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

He just wants more room.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Dramamine, you know, dramamine's like the best. Dramamine for me is like the only thing that will really help. Yeah. Dramamine was found as a cure by accident.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Oh my god, I wish that this was oh, it is kind of recording. It is recording. He's talking into my face.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Um, okay, so in 1947, uh-huh, this woman kept coming in to the doctor to get her hives looked at. Mm-hmm. Hives. Relatable. Hives. I've got hives. You've got hives. Yeah. Yeah. I don't curl. Do I curling? No, but you've had them before. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:06

I've seen them.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Yeah. But she had to take the trolley to get to the doctor. So she so she'd go in to the doctor on the trolley, and she's like, I hated doing it because like she got sick on the trolley, but they would give her these pills they've been working on to help with her hives. And it was called compound 1694 for allergies, which is like an antihistamine or something. And she took it and it helped with the hives, but then she was like, Hey, weird side effect. I didn't get sick on the trolley. Isn't that crazy? So then the doctors were like, huh, let's test this. So then they partnered with the US Army and they had like 1,300 soldiers being shipped out to Germany uh post-war. I don't know which war. Okay. Stop asking questions.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Well, if it was 47, I mean World War II.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Oh, yeah. Right. Okay. Keep moving. Cut that out.

SPEAKER_05 20:57

It's important to be humble.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

And they're like, we're gonna do an experiment on these soldiers, but like they didn't, it was like involuntary participation. So half of the soldiers got dramamine, the other half didn't. And then the soldiers that had dramamine like didn't get seasick.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

So they're like So is Dramonine that word you said with numbers after it? Yes. Oh okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

Yeah, and it was originally um an antihistamine. That sounds like a real, like, we've been re-watching X-Files, and that's like a real number. Like, I don't know, experimental government 16981.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Yeah. What's X-Files on? Amazon Prime. Is it? I feel like I should tell my dad. He has to start watching it. And I just I feel like that might be a nice show for him to revisit. It's so good. I'll probably be like, I didn't like it, but I remember as a child then like watching it. And I've closing my eyes too.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

We've rewatched it, like, I don't know. I've probably seen it all. Like it's a classic, but like sometimes some of them are stressful, but like so I can't watch them going to sleep. Some of them are really fun and campy. Well, it's like Star Trek.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

In my mind, it was scary because I was scared as a kid.

SPEAKER_04 21:56

Some of them are scary, some of them are really intense, but some of them are really funny. Like they really hit everything. I should tell him.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

I walked a dog one time named Fox Mulder.

SPEAKER_04 22:05

And I mean like both just like stunning human beings.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

Okay, so real quick, the best places to sit if you're motion sick for anybody who's coming here for tips and tricks. If you're on a boat, you're supposed to sit in the middle of the boat or on the upper deck. Or maybe that's sit in the middle of the boat on the upper deck. Makes sense. Yeah. For me, it's nowhere. Sure. No boats. Yeah. And I want to debunk a common theory. They say, like, oh, just get in the water, you'll be fine. Like once you get off the boat, you'll be fine in the water. No, you can still be seasick in the water. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Because you're still getting tossed around. Yeah. I was talking about that with Evan last night. He had a really bad boat experience in Thailand. And um, I was like, Yeah, I threw up while I was swimming one time.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Like, I didn't know that that could happen, but it can't.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

If you're on a bus, choose a window seat.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Sure. With the window down or just window? On the bus. Yeah. Do you have an option? I don't know. I'm thinking of like a school bus. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

And like you could have a window down on that, I guess. Did you all have that person that came around to do school assemblies and told the story about that kid who was decapitated on a school bus and so don't stick your head out the window? No. Yeah, we had it.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

If we did it, it wasn't traumatizing because I don't remember that. Okay. Wow. We had at what age? Elementary school. We did have somebody come and teach you that a yo-yo, and that was cool. Yeah, thanks. I feel like it was all the same presentation.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

The school got cut for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:28

Oh, yeah. We could and then we would like sell those books, and you could like get those cool gifts, like uh inflatable furnace, like entertainment books too. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Those like coupon book things.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

What'd you say?

unknown 23:39

A book.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

Sorry. Car sit in the front passenger seat. Obviously. Cruise ship.

SPEAKER_04 23:51

Stay away.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Yeah. Book a cabin towards the front or the middle of the ship. If you can, she's one on the lower level closer to the water. The lower level. I know. You want to be under the water?

SPEAKER_04 23:59

Interesting. But maybe it's so you could see a horizon line.

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Or if you're under the water, maybe it's like less movement because you're like way down.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

You want to be all the way under the water.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

I don't want to be, but I don't even want to be on that boat.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

I don't want to.

SPEAKER_04 24:12

I'm like, if you have motions like don't take a cruise.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

I don't know. I mean, the one cruise I went on, you didn't even know you were on a boat. I would have known. She no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

There's no you can't get anything past me. Uh plane sit in the wing section, which I always thought that you were not supposed to sit in the wing section because I thought it was bumpier.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

No, it's less turbulent. So I do always try and sit in the wing. Okay. Because you feel it less.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Well, I would I don't like to sit behind the wing because I'll never sit I'll never sit right behind the wing in a window seat. Dana, wherever she is right now, if she's listening to this, she's saying it with me. Something could fly off the wing and go through the window. And that's what happened to that woman on Southwest. I've never heard that. I've never, yeah. Yeah. Dana knows. Okay, well, we're gonna move to Yor's topic. To Allie's topic. Thank you. Um, and this is something that you've been talking about for a while, but I'm curious like when you really were radicalized. Your topic is natural fibers or natural fabrics, which isn't, is it the same thing?

SPEAKER_04 25:23

I don't know. I think it's the same thing. Okay. Well, not like, you know, I'm not an expert, so we'll start there.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

You're the smartest person I know on this topic.

SPEAKER_04 25:31

Well, that's very kind of you. Um, also, I feel like I just want to preface this by I feel like a lot of the textiles and fabrics are often marketed like they're they tend to be more expensive.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

So we'll get into that too, like where to find like cheaper ones.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 25:48

Because I don't, I'm also not spending a ton of money on these things. And I feel it is a luxury, but I feel like it's a trade-off. I feel like I started noticing like we'd go on vacation and I was like, man, this like linen shirt is just like the perfect. I just would wear it like every day over and over again. Because it was like wherever we were, it would like keep me warm, but it was like when it was really hot out, I was also cool. It just did it all. And I feel like that was kind of like the first leg into it. Then on the like flip side, because I am always cold.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 26:23

I feel like it took me like years of my life, and I was like a couple years ago, I was so done being cold in the winter in Chicago. I was like, I'm gonna snap.

unknown 26:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

If I and like the only way I could warm my bones was to take a bath or a shower, which I feel like most a lot of people. I know that feel like it was like literally, or like I had to get like in bed.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

And I couldn't, and like with layers on. And it was just like, I can't live like this. So I started just like doing deep dives about because I just was like, no matter how many layers I put on, I'm not warm. And I was like, there has to be something to this. And then people were like, you should just switch to like wool and cashmere. And I did, and I was like, Oh, it's life-changing.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

I mean, yeah, the amount of times we've been at a dinner and you've been like, you know what I'm wearing under this? Cashmere. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, where are you getting this? Well, we'll get to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it is not like super accessible. But I forgot to tell you, I there was an man on my tour in the Netherlands who had Renault's disease. And I said, Let me tell you, I know all about my friend.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Yeah. How'd that come up on your journey with this man? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Like, I've noticed your fingers are purple.

SPEAKER_02 27:30

Yeah, I noticed your fingers look like bones. Um he was having a hard time warm. Because the weather was okay. Well, this actually is a good. So the weather was really weird. It was like a it was like cold, but not super cold. It was like that warm or that wet cold. Uh, one of the worst warmed me up. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 27:51

And I was like, I know. I was like, please take this with you.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Yeah, I had a hard time um warming up. And he he like had to like take a break because his hand, he like couldn't feel his hands. But Allie, because I don't historically check the weather, Ali was like, I'm worried about you. I'm gonna lend you this cashmere sweater and this like packable down. And I wore it every single day.

SPEAKER_04 28:10

Yeah. I don't know. Like, I feel like such an asshole being like cashmere because it is expensive, but like really, I've just totally changed my thinking of like I'm gonna just like buy less stuff so that I can have cashmere because it's so life-changing and it lasts for so long. It will last for like 30 years.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

That's wild.

SPEAKER_04 28:30

It's kind of crazy. It'll pill the shitty sweaters you buy from like Target and stuff, will pill, but there's nothing you can do about it. You can't ever like fix that. You can't like shave it off. But like cashmere and wool, you can shave the pills off. And it's a shaver. Yeah, they're like five dollars.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

I also noticed because like I don't know if it's like certain fabrics, but sometimes it's like I'm never gonna get any romantic interest again. But my armpits, like the armpits of the clothes smell so bad. I know.

SPEAKER_04 29:01

It's all those chemicals. Yeah, it's the it's plastic.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

Is it the okay? Do you want to talk? Let's let's talk about dry wicking.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

For so many years, I I feel like you guys knew I like I hated working out. I still don't love working out. Um, but part of that is that like I despise all of those workout materials, and it is because they are pure plastic and it makes me feel like I'm suffocating. Like I feel like a fish. It makes me feel hotter, it makes me feel and it's like they smell like you can wash them. It smells and then you pull them out of the wash and they're like okay, but then like you put them back on your body and your body heat makes it smell again because it's still in there. That's so gross, and it literally does not happen with natural fibers. When you wash it out, it actually like comes out. That's nice, and it also doesn't hold on to odors and bacteria the way that plastic does.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

How do you because when we played tennis the other day, you were like, My my pants pure cotton? And I was like, if I were to wear, because I I want to get into this, like I'm wearing my mate, the label like top is like caught what I got in a natural fiber, I think, because you did.

SPEAKER_03 30:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

But then, like, the way my butt would look so soggy, saggy if I were to wear like cotton workout pants, because I feel like they don't hold the shape.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

They do. I mean, there's like five percent like spandex in it, probably. They're not just like you know, 100% flat, they're not flapping in the way.

unknown 30:27

But yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:28

They still feel like workout pants.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

You looked great.

unknown 30:32

Right.

SPEAKER_04 30:33

Thank you. Yeah, but I was like, that's so interesting.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

I never thought to even look at that.

SPEAKER_04 30:37

It's so nice. I feel like I can wear those pants three times before I've washed them. They like literally don't smell.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

That's really nice.

SPEAKER_04 30:43

It's like kind of crazy. Okay. So, also, another thing I'm passionate about in this vein is like it extends to sheets. Thread count is like not really real. That's kind of been like debunked. I feel like that was like a marketing tactic. Okay. But there's different kinds of cotton, like Egyptian cotton is and also this ext this applies to like wool and cashmere too. The higher quality of all those textiles have like longer strands of thread, so they're stronger and they don't like break. So that's why they're softer.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

What's per cow? I don't know. I think it's like a chemically based created. I do too. That's there's a lot of because they have like cooling in them, but I think it's like a chemically created content, or it's like a moisture-wicking thing where they're like marketed as being cool, but it's like not well.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

I have night sweats. You should try cotton or linen sheets. Linen sheets, yeah. That's my J V is linen. Linen incredible.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

Also, this is like not helpful if you already like have invested in a mattress, but like memory foam. Why have I? Memory foam historically sleeps really hot because it's all plastic.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

Mine's not that well. I did get an organic mattress.

SPEAKER_04 31:56

I know, but is there's no memory foam? What is in it?

SPEAKER_02 31:59

Oh gosh. Uh uh, I don't know, but it's so heavy. Fiberglass? Uh, if not fiberglass, because Evan, excuse me, Evan's is full of fiberglass. We've had this conversation. Yeah. Because he nectar is fiberglass. I'm avocado.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

Heather, yours is yours is natural as well. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Sappa. Yeah. It didn't come in a box. That's a good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Okay. Mine came in the heaviest box that's ever been put for your house.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

I had to kick it out. And I'll include the video. That's where all of my strength is and legs took so much work.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

It was crazy. It when we opened it, because you know how they grow when you open it, it slammed me against a wall. It did. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

Yeah. It did. It threw me. We lost Joe Ferber.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

It threw me like I didn't know. We'll cut this, but I didn't know that was thrown by that elephant.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

Oh, yeah. She's never seen that clip. Yeah. It got brought up last night.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:50

By me. But anyway, you should try. Because I do feel like I went through that phase too. Like, I don't I did it all in phases, I feel like. And then I was like, just I it all clicked one day. And I was like, what am I doing? Like it just like I everything has to just be like natural, cotton, linen, as much as possible. It's not feasible for everything to be that.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

It is expensive. Cause like I went through it because I was inspired by you. And then I was like, I want to get a really nice sweatsuit. Sure. But so then I was like, I did a lot of research and mate, the label popped up. I love it. Like, I wear this black sweat shirt probably every single day, and I got these like pants to go sweatpants to go with it.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

But it's so expensive.

SPEAKER_04 33:26

It is, I know. I will say the workaround for that, I think, is buying things on like Poshmark or Depop. Okay. Because it's like very often like half of the price, and it's like literally the exact same thing.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

That's where you get your cashmere sweaters.

SPEAKER_04 33:41

A lot of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:42

And then it's you just take it to the dry cleaner before you wear it, and it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

What are your preferred brands that you look for?

SPEAKER_04 33:51

Well, I think it's nice, like when you're buying on Poshmark and stuff like that, you should focus on brands that you know. Some people accept returns, but like I don't also want to like mess with that usually. So I just do like brands that I know the size will work.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 34:04

So I just try to stick with like the hits like J. Crew or like that one that I lent you, Nadam. I've never heard of that. It's a really, really good cashmere brand. Okay. And like Equipment has really good cashmere, events has really good cashmere. Do you remember the time that Lauren Sexton ran into our room when we were in college? We were living together. And I, of course, as like a college sophomore, I got like satin sheets.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

I know they were a beautiful college.

SPEAKER_04 34:38

They were beautiful. I loved those. And Heather, I don't know, it must have been a weekend or a night. I don't know. Heather and I were both like lounging in our room together, and all of a sudden Lauren Saxon busts in and she's like, Allie, did you know your sheets are made from silk or like silk worms?

SPEAKER_02 34:52

And I was like, She took that cloud, that same club, but I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

I was like, first of all, these are shitty, so these are not silk. Yeah, these are satin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

That is so long.

SPEAKER_04 35:03

But I was like, but also, yes, I did know that silk came from worms. Did you not know that yet in your 20 years of life?

SPEAKER_02 35:10

I wouldn't have known that until I took that bug class.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

You learned it in a bug class, not even in a fashion class? I didn't take it that. I look at me.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

But I feel like they were such fun electives. No, I never had or no, Lauren did take, she took fashion merchandising.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

I think that that was, yeah. Yeah, that was amazing. I remember that makes now it's all coming back. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Is satin stupid?

SPEAKER_04 35:32

No, so there is sat satin is oh you can get silk satin or satin silk. It's just finished in a different way. But like most of the time.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

I feel like you're saying so.

SPEAKER_04 35:45

You can get okay, so like how do I say this? All I can't do it.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

I always thought that satin was like plastic silk.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

You can get like real satin, which is like made of silk, or you can get like shitty satin.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

What's the difference between satin and silk?

SPEAKER_04 36:02

There's finished in a different way. Oh okay.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

How do you because I'm wondering a satin sheet is really appealing to me because I'm, you know, with the night sweats. Yeah. Do they breathe?

SPEAKER_04 36:15

But you would need like real silk ones.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

Yeah, because satin does not silk does.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

Exactly. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

And I can imagine that silk sheets are in my budget.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

I mean, there might be some in Quinn's. Maybe I mean I think Lunya definitely has them and they're they're expensive. I've done them before. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:33

But I mean, I linen is usually expensive too for sheets, but linen is a good one.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

I think I should do it. But the thing is, is like you're gonna pay a lot, but then you're gonna have those for so much longer. Because like they're like noble fiber, so it's like they're just gonna like last and get better with age and like wash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

I remember when I was little, we had flannel sheets in the winter. Can you imagine anything more disgusting?

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Okay, no, because when I was at Jason's back in like the winter time.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

Oh, but that's like a special. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

He had it was cold and it's like an older home, and I hadn't had flannel sheets since I was a little kid, and I was like, oh my god, wait, this is a treat. Like I was so warm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

I just feel like I would catch on fire.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

No, it was so cozy and warm, and I just like forgot how good they are. But I feel like they and I looked because my room is so cold, so I was like, this would be nice for the winter, but they don't have extended sizes. Like it's like I need a deep fish too tall. Yeah, that's like I need a deep fit, and like which is interesting, they like no flannel. Like I was Googling, could find that's a bummer, like 18 to 21 inches. Huh. They were all like 14 to 16. Yeah, that is really deep, but they were so cozy.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

It's not, it's a normal mattress. Remember you remember her old mattress?

SPEAKER_03 37:46

I hated that thing.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

It was you were sinking into the unit. It was not a mattress at all. It was like a waterbed.

unknown 37:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

I love it. It was so cozy. My back hurts just thinking about it. Just hug deal.

SPEAKER_02 38:05

I forgot to ask up top, what are the natural fibers? Real quick, give it to us.

SPEAKER_04 38:09

Well, I'm sure there's more than what I'm listing. But the ones that I personally feel strongly about are like linen, cotton, wool, cashmere. Okay. Silk. Silk.

unknown 38:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:20

Okay. I love those linen. It's just like there's a reason why wealthy people wear all those things. Yeah. Yes, it's like maybe for status, whatever, blah, blah, blah. But like it also is because it's better.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Okay. Well, we were talking about general generational wealth earlier and how we wanted that. Exactly. I said I can't on this podcast? No, just understanding in the kitchen. I said the amount of times I've texted Megan and said, hey, real quick, how do I get rich fast? And she's like, stop asking me. Yeah. Anything else about natural fibers, about motion sickness? Anything else that you thought of that I've said something negative about you that you want to declare the error?

SPEAKER_01 38:58

Um, let me check my notes. Oh, a couple other things. It's not weird that I don't eat breakfast as soon as I wake up.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

Oh, I think it's weird. Oh, I don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Normal.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

I think it's crazy to have coffee on an empty stomach. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

Well, I'm with Heather on this side.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Heather eats breakfast at noon. Yeah, me too. I mean, I'll eat it before, but like sometimes I just get sidetracked. Like I wake up with a spoon in my mouth.

SPEAKER_04 39:22

No. That's another thing. Like, I feel like I've known other people like that too. And it is like, but it's each of us like cannot understand the other one. It's a very polarizing thing. It really teaches you. It's like you're in two camps.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

Right.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

And there's no middle ground.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Some pastries are savory pastries.

SPEAKER_04 39:38

Savory.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

I'm but I'm saying, like, yeah, like that's like the two camps. I don't understand that.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

Yeah. And also, I don't have cicada feet.

unknown 39:46

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

That's true. Baby feet are peeling 24 to 36 hours, and I'm wearing socks.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

And it doesn't come off as one big husk.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

No. So I'm not walking around shedding out in the open. I'm keeping it contained into socks. Okay. And then when I take my sock off, I'm dumping it in your bed.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

That's fair. I don't know that because you know I sleep in socks. So the bottom of my bed is just like a graveyard of socks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

But yeah, I'm keeping my skin controlled. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Okay. Well, I did offer Clay a skin box when he was ready last time. Oh, oh my God. Is it ready? Well, no, I was like, for fans of the pod. Let me introduce Clay's wife. Yeah, that's me. Clay of the Parry and Falcon. Yeah. So there we go. Now we can put it together.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

I feel like I'm just like aging so much. But um, as I'm just with every passing day, I feel like I talk to more and more people who are like starting to interested in birds.

unknown 40:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:47

And I feel like Dana is one of those people. Oh, Dana just showed us the new app. So that's what I was gonna say. We downloaded that. It is really fun. I know.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

I do want I would like to have it. So I saw some birds that I thought, are those baby glues?

SPEAKER_04 41:00

Also, this is I feel very old, but it's like this is like the mating or like migratory like week. Like this week and next week are like the weeks where there's like there's birds in our area that will like never be here again until next year. I gotta get some binoculars. It's really cool. But anyway, a few weeks ago I saw a hawk or some huge bird of prey. Did you know that they live around here? Peregrine falcons live around here. No, yeah. Because I Googled it and I was like, what could this possibly be? And it was like one answer. And it was a peregrine falcon.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

Did Clay have a leather glove on?

SPEAKER_04 41:33

Yeah, he was in the alley.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

Yeah. Isn't that crazy that they used to do that?

SPEAKER_04 41:38

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think they still do that. Probably.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Um at the Auburn, Alabama games, they have a what's their mascot? Oh, it's tigers, but they somehow there's like a hawk that's related to them and it flies around the football stadium and then lands in the middle of the field on somebody's arm. But it's like they just let it go and it comes back.

SPEAKER_03 41:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

I would like somebody to come on the pot to talk about that. Like talk about that bird. Well, just like birds and then like how they can like let them free and then like land. How do you trust they're gonna come back? Like I don't let fits outside. Let's manifest this.

SPEAKER_04 42:10

I think it's like dogs though, where they train them, like they have like a dead mouse, and they're like, If you come back, if you have the mouse, go get this. Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

Yeah, a bird podcast would be interesting.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

We gotta get a bird expert. Uh, maybe we just need to have Dana do a little work.

SPEAKER_03 42:23

Yeah, but she could.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

Yeah. My sister also knows a lot about birds. Yeah, but no, I'm also interested in them now because there's a cardinal that sits out there that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 42:30

I know, I saw a cardinal when I was walking in.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

Yeah, there's a lady and a uh female or a lady and a male. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:36

I saw earlier today. Also, I saw two male cardinals fighting, and it's like you're really living up to your reputation. Is that what they're known for? They're being they're very aggressive. That's why I'm not until you told me that. Well, that's why they're like mascots for like schools and teams because they're like a lot of state birds. They're like aggressive.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

I didn't realize that. Like how stupid are mascots literally this big, right?

SPEAKER_04 42:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

But then, but would you want to go in a match against a cardinal? It's got a beak. I think I could win.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

Well, they'd poke your ass out.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

That's what I'm saying. Well, magpies. You have to wear goggles. There's a lady on Ladies of London that has a magpie. Her name's Hegati.

SPEAKER_03 43:10

Yeah, I feel like you've told me this before.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

I just I think it's cool. Yeah. I just don't think we shove birds as pets.

SPEAKER_03 43:15

But that's how I feel. Yeah, I know. I feel bad caging them. I got a bird. On that note.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

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